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Old 06-14-2008, 10:34 AM   #117 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by host
_dux, the stock market is finally waking up to "the tell" from the stock price performances exhibited in the charts of four national residential homebuilders.

The chart of the S&P 500 shows that a "V Shaped Recovery" was the popular investor belief, after the democrats gained control of congress, even so far as the expectations for the homebuilders themselves. The homebuilders led the decline, they paused, bounced back, declined again. Now, it is sinking in, they are making new lows, and they will go bankrupt....but, for the S&P 500, realization was slow in coming, steeped in a denial that drove that index to a new, all time high, even when it was obvious that the homebuilders were losing money and would not recover anytime soon.










Obama, if elected, will preside over a period of economic depression, if the downward momentum of the stock prices of the homebuilders is an indication, and I believe that it is.

The concern that I have is that Obama is not talking about the manipulation that drove the clear sign of a broken system....new highs in the S&P 500 when there were obvious signals that it was time to sell stocks, not to buy them....the sudden collapse of Bear Stearns, the unprecedented access given by the Fed to unregulated, major investment banks, to low interest loans in exchange for "collateral" of questionable (unmarketable....nearly worthless at the present time....) value. He's not describing these signs as problems, not proposing investigation leading to regulatory reform.

He's telling us (and Wallstreet) what we want to hear.....the consequences will be that the shock of what is actually coming to America in the next two years will catch him, and us....unprepared, unaccepting....although he must know at least what I know....and he still wants to run....and do it this way, not talking about it!

BINGO.... B I N G O and BINGO was his dog O.

And when it does happen, or OPEC decides to finally pull the plug on the US Dollar and go to he Euro for oil...... where will Obama be? Where will his supporters be?

America the beautiful will as a majority turn him into a very hated president.

Gee, that really helps all of us, a black president in office during a great downfall..... that will help race relations won't it.

Hmmmm..... Maybe the powers that be in the Dem party are sacrificing Carter..... I mean Obama...

But shhhhhh don't tell anyone to believe that would be racist.

I do wonder, who the Obama puppet masters are.

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Originally Posted by host
pan, even though you have ignored my supportive post, FWIW, I tried to take your opinion seriously....you're making it harder....this is perfectly reasonable, full of common sense. Your position seems full of Bush-Cheney-McCain Kool-Ade:

Make it clear we are leaving.... YES.

Set a time table based on days? NO.

We need to make sure that what we destroyed in that illegal war, we fix before we come home. We need to use the military to help the Iraqis rebuild a better homeland.

Does that mean continue the war? No, but we cannot just bring everyone home, leave that place a shit hole and have the Muslim world over there use it as a bigger excuse to hate us.

FUCK THAT SHIT!!!!!!! Help them rebuild it. We bombed the hell out of it, now we need to help rebuild it.

I don't hear Obama talking this way. His plan would be to bring the troops home ASAP and leave that mess. If we do that, we just helped the radical muslims in that area draft more terrorists. Terrorists that WILL come to our homes.

But if we help rebuild and when we leave Iraq and the Iraqis are a better, happy people and nation..... then we have accomplished something.

With the right leadership we can do this.

Is that leader McCain? Maybe, but he is far better than Obama on this issue. McCain is far more realistic.
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