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Originally Posted by aceventura3
The special prosecutor had the support of the Supreme Court, and the Judicial Committee had the support of enough Republicans to approve the articles of impeachment. Most important they had a case. I don't know what the "case" is for impeaching Bush. Even if you think he "lied", which the latest Senate Intel Committee investigation did not conclude, he did not do it under oath. Bush is not in contempt of Congress, he has not obstructed justice, so what are his crimes?
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I'll just list the bigger ones, for the sake of time:
1) Bush bypassed informed consent knowingly by presenting at best partisan and biased information and withholding information when presenting the case for the invasion of Iraq to Congress. (this also includes breaking the UN charter, which is a legal US treaty).
2) Bush threatened and was responsible for an attack on a sovereign nation, including civilian targets.
3) Bush ordered illegal kidnappings.
4) Bush ordered that Valery Plame's name be released.
5) Bush ordered the Attorney General to bypass judicial orders which should have lead to the release of detainees.
6) Bush ordered secret wiretapping and information gathering on US citizens, bypassing FISA.
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
Approval ratings are different than what people will perceive as partisan. Approval ratings also change based on events. Right now Democrats have Bush were they want him, if they make him out to be a victim or whatever, the mood of the nation could change fast. I think the rhetoric being used is better than Democrats actually doing something from a political point of view.
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Democrats are weak, and not impeaching Bush reinforces that view.
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
I am betting things won't change much under the next Democratic Party administration. Just my opinion. People can always find some "wrong" with any administration and write books about it. Heck, people can already write books about Obama's "wrongs" and he hasn't taken the oath of office yet. Hannity on Fox has already made a cottage industry on Obama's "wrongs", just wait until he J-walks - impeachment talk will follow shortly thereafter.
I just think it is time for both sides to give it a rest.
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As soon as Bush gives breaking the law and behaving unethically a rest, I'll rest.
As for Obama's wrongs, that's a hell of a red herring.