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Originally Posted by djtestudo
Actually, he's tied for 25th all-time in OPS+, with 11 lefties and a switch-hitter ahead of him. But there are also righties there that I would not put ahead of him, like Pete Browning and Dave Orr (who spent most of their careers in the American Association, they playe dso long ago) and Mark McGwire.
That leaves Pujols, Frank Thomas, Dick Allen, DiMaggio, Mays, Aaron, Foxx, Hank Greenberg and Hornsby.
So he's at least top-ten.
Hornsby, Pujols, Foxx, DiMaggio and Greenberg are the only ones from that group ahead in batting average; and Hornsby, Pujols, Foxx, Thomas and Greenberg are the only ones ahead in OBP. Only Aaron, Mays, Foxx and Thomas are ahead in home runs.
So, I think you could make a legitamite arguement right now that he (and Pujols) are top-five among right-handed hitters. A few more years and there should be little doubt.
(I think I'm one of three Orioles fans that actually LIKES Manny Ramirez   ) |
I am glad to see that you enjoy Manny Ramirez. Even though his fielding can at times drive fans crazy, you have to respect that he generally plays the game with a certain childlike enjoyment and is one of the most prodigious hitters of his time.
After a brief review of some stats, courtesy of baseball-reference.com manny's numbers do stack up pretty favorably with some of the best in the game. In a couple of areas, he may be ranked in the 20's, but he can jump up several spots by the end of the year because people are all clustered up.
Here are a couple stats, for example:
RankPlayer (age)Extra-Base HitsBats 1.Hank Aaron+ 1477R 29.Manny Ramirez (36)1005R
Manny 15th for Righties, 2 active players ahead of him (Griffey, Thomas)
RankPlayer (age)Slugging %Bats 1.Babe Ruth+* .6898L 8.Manny Ramirez (36).5910R
Manny 4th for righties (Bonds and Pujols ahead)
RankPlayer (age)OPSBats 1.Babe Ruth+* 1.1638L 10.Manny Ramirez (36).9994R
Manny 5th for righties (Bonds and Pujols)
RankPlayer (age)Home RunsBats 1.Barry Bonds* (43)762L 24.Manny Ramirez (36)502R
Manny 14th for righties, he will likely never catch A-Rod, and may not get to Griff, if he stays healthy. Of course 4 of the top ten are known PED guys.
RankPlayer (age)RBIBats 1.Hank Aaron+ 2297R 25.Manny Ramirez (36)1643R
Manny about 15th for righties
RankPlayer (age)At Bats per Home RunBats 1.Mark McGwire 10.60R 10.Manny Ramirez (36)14.50R
Many is 6th for righties
After this review, I would probably say that assuming his career goes for a few more productive years he will be one of the top 5 righthanded hitters ever, but he may not be there quite yet (top ten?). His consistency has been remarkable, and he has a high career average for a slugger.
His high-5's per outfield assist is right up there as well.