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Old 06-04-2008, 10:37 AM   #96 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by Willravel
Why is it okay when Bush does it an not when host does it?
I am indifferent to it. I just acknowledge it.

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Originally Posted by ratbastid
So, Bush lied, but America's to blame because it wasn't cynical enough, and should have known he's a fucking liar.

It's like saying, "If I punch you in the nose, it's your fault for not moving in time."
I don't conclude he lied.

If I tell you I am going to punch you in the nose, it is certainly my fault for punching you, but you feel the pain of the punch. You might have avoided the pain if you had taken some kind of action. Given the intel available the possibility of me actually hitting you in the nose and the possibility of me not hitting you - you have to "cherry pick" your intel and take an action or inaction. Whatever you do, I would not call you a lier.

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Originally Posted by dc_dux
WTF! comparing members of an internet politcal forum to the Commander in Chief..or the Secy of Defense...or the National Security Advisor? and I thought I've seen everything possible rationale of those supporting the Iraq invasion.

When you do it, or I do it, or host does it....no one is asked to put their life on the line!

For an interesting time line on Iraq and the Media....particularly in the lead up to the invasion.
The nerve! Food for thought - at what point in life does one develop the decision making skills that they may have to one day apply to a life or death situation?

For me I developed those skills as a very young person. I understand how I would make my decisions. When I have studied history I have given much thought to what I would do if I were in situations making life and death situations. So for you it is outlandish for me to compare Host to the President. In my view it is not. I expect that the people I interact with, including Host, may one day be in a situation of great power, including the power of life and death, I sincerely hope that they have a thorough understanding of the impact their actions will have, and approach those situations understanding their biases, principles and how they arrive at conclusions.

That is WTF!

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Originally Posted by ratbastid
Well that's exactly it. This is 8-year-old politics. Politics of the family road trip back seat.
World politics is not much more complicated than that, it is just the stakes that are higher. What are the fundamental motivators of human behavior? How do those motivators change as we age? Do they change? I am really interested in knowing your view on these questions.
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