LLL

@Makia - don't worry, you didn't seem judgmental. I'm probably going to hell for this anyway. As for self-esteem, I don't think it's that.

@Seaver - exactly. I very recently saw a picture of her when she was a teenager and much slimmer and she was STUNNING. She's still very attractive, but the whole fat thing is a real passion killer for me now.

@RetroGunslinger - that's the thing that really gets me. It's not actually how she currently looks that's the real killer (she was overweight when we first dated) but the fact that despite being told by an expert 2 years ago she was "obese" and she's done nothing serious about it. But it hasn't stopped me loving her - it just really winds me up how short-termist she is about it all.

@BearCub - I've tried that, but I have a suspicion I'm really crap at it because I've had really limited success. I've tried the "good for you" thing, but then this is a girl who drinks about 5 pints of strong beer every friday so "good for you" rarely cuts it.

Pity I can't afford a personal trainer for her, because I suspect that'd help loads.