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Old 05-28-2008, 11:49 AM   #20 (permalink)
Willravel
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
So for 6 years the rest of the process hasn't been stupid?
Strawman. The past 6 years are further evidence. I never said the last 6 years was the only example.
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So the framers should have not made the Constitution as they did since 6 years while Willravel was around it made him vomit because of party swings of legislative and executive banches actually meeting and meeting in such a way that disagreed with Willravel? Maybe for some it was actually not a stalemate and that things got done quickly and efficiently to their statisfaction.
They had no way of knowing the power political parties would hold in the future (thus the amendment process). Still, allowing one branch to choose the leadership in another branch flies in the face of checks and balances. They had to have known that.
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There are ALWAYS coming checks and balances.... so while maybe a party controls the executive and legislative, it won't control it forever. Seems to me then 6 years out of 232 seems to be working for this "social experiment."
The way things are going, for now and into the foreseeable future, it will always be the republicans or democrats in power. Binary oligarchy.

Why is "social experiment" in quotations?
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
So you've stated how to circumvent it, but you didn't address how it's stupid.
Stupid was allowing the executive and legislative to choose the judicial. The process by which members are appointed should be independent of one another, as they are with the executive and legislative. This makes impropriety more difficult.

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Originally Posted by Willravel, the decent
Scalia went duck hunting with Chenet at the same time Cheney was a named defendant in a case before the Supreme Court. Alito presided over a case involving a company in which he'd invested hundreds of thousands of dollars. Alito sees terrorism cases despite being best friends with Michael Chertoff (head of DHS). The best part? They vote down party lines on nearly every decision. Of the 24 5/4 decisions in the 2006-2007 term, 19 broke across ideological lines. They invented law to steal an election.
Any process that can lead to this level of corruption needs reform.
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