Originally Posted by Strange Famous

Eurovision certainly is considered kitsch, at least here & it is very popular with the gay comminity.

There has always been political voting (Greece & Cyprus, Germany & Turkey, etc...) but now the Baltic and Balkan states simply outnumber the Western ones, and former Yugoslav countries and Russia will always have a head start on the rest until this is changed somehow.

And the UK has also sent some pretty awful entries, and havent been represented by an "A List" pop star for some time. The kid Russia sent is a big star there and in Europe. Andy Abrahams is an ex dustman who lost in X Factor.

I think it was a mid table song, but he doesnt have a fan base in Europe, and we dont have much political voting on our side, which is why we finished last rather than 16th or whatever.

I dont see that any of these statements are contradictory.

And I still wanted the little minx from Greece to win, even though her song was pretty cheesy.