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Old 05-24-2008, 08:53 AM   #57 (permalink)
pan6467
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Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA
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Originally Posted by Willravel
Oh, Pan's back.

Oh... that Pan's back.

You know part of me just wants to make sure me and my family and friends will be taken care of when we run out of oil. I've got a pretty decent garden, as does my mom and dad, and many friends. We've all discussed how to landscape local parks so that they can grow crops. We've discussed redirecting local water (streams and such) in order to aid in crop cultivation. We've discussed having long-term rations. I suspect that if we started running out tomorrow, I'd likely be okay. I know exactly where I'd go (Canada) and exactly what I'd do. Still, a shit-load of people would die.

What kind of person is willing to allow people to die from their own ignorance, though? Is that really the kind of person I want to be? Is it just about me taking care of me and fuck the rest of people, many of whom will starve to death?

These are the questions that make me who I am. I do care about other people, even strangers... even strangers that can't take care of themselves. I don't just want to survive myself, but I want everyone to. Or at least as many people as possible. Despite not believing in a higher, supernatural power, I wholeheartedly believe in the golden rule, and I think it applies here.
Spending time and energy to allow the federal government to take more control of our lives because YOU and people like you would rather turn to government to solve problems than find the solutions yourself sickens me.

You want to take care of others fine.... I do everyday, and I am damn good at it. But wanting government to do it is flat out wrong.

Take care of others and the planet by investing in companies that are working o alternative fuels..... work on getting car companies to develop better engines.

Wanting laws to make everyone go 55, TRULY WILL DO NOTHING TO SAVE GAS IN THE LONG RUN.... AND WILL DO VERY LITTLE SHORT TERM. Are you so truly uncaring, unwilling to see this, so willing to give the feds more control over us....... than to work on long term solutions that do not need federal government in our lives taking more control?

I feel sorry for you and others who believe the federal government is the only way we can ever solve anything. I feel sorry that you have such little faith in your brothers and sisters who would probably be more willing to listen and help you if you offered up demands for change and worked on getting alternative fuels going.
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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"
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