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Well, will: I can say that I'm fairly certain that I don't know everything, and thus it's quite probable that my own knowledge of everything that is or ever will be is pretty paltry and craptastic. I can sort of live with that. I've got what I've got, and that's all I've got, and upon this I'll make the best decisions I can.
I agree that you can't qualify anything about how great this god's supposed grasp on things could be/must be, because it is - by definition - unqualifiable. So it's utterly useless to me.
filthy: you pretty much nailed it. Maybe there is some great "holy fuck - now it all makes sense" bit of knowledge out there that would just really tie this whole room together, like a good carpet. But as it stands, based on what I know - I don't find the evidence compelling, and it really seems that I'd take the "no one is suffering, and we don't have this notion of free will...which we wouldn't be free to recognize we didn't have...and so maybe we would think we were free...but everyone was adequately fed and free of murder and rape and such" option over "free will must be there for god to show me he loves me. so i'm pretty ok over here in the us of a, but a lot of people are grandiosely fucked" option.
ultimately, i'm at the point that the whole god bit just doesn't fascinate as much as it once did. the diamond has lost it's twinkle.
i'm not sure how this tracks back to whatever the op is, but i'm not reacting to the op any longer, only to the discussion that is unfolding.
it's good to see you as well - i find that my interest in these boards waxes and wanes. i love the community - personified by many posting in this thread - but in general i'm about at my "i'm not sure if this girl likes me" / "does reverend wright really want to fuck my baby in the face and why does he make so much money" limit.
This is America - Love it or leave it you commie pinko punk!
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