Originally Posted by willravel

This is the supposition of an idiot. Ontological arguments are really quite intriguing until you run into things like this. Even if #2 was true, which it's not, using terminology like "great" makes god's state relative to say the least. It becomes subjective.

Using this as a proof of some kind is fallacious. Why isn't this argument on VH1's Dumbest Philosopher Quotes? That's simple. Some people actually agree with it. Some very bright people actually agree with it.

The same is true of intelligent design. It's a phage that ravages people's perceptions, be they stupid or smart.