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Old 05-15-2008, 03:07 PM   #122 (permalink)
Redjake
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Originally Posted by asaris
Isn't that like saying "Please explain air flight without using the principles of aerodynamics"? That is, the answer is that we don't understand it. Which seems to me to be just right if God exists and is in fact God. Wouldn't it be odd if we could understand why God did everything he did? That said, free will is at least a tentative answer to (B). I don't understand (C). (A) is hard; I don't have an explanation for it.



1 -- this is the general problem of evil, which I talked about above. I'll be honest, there's no really satisfactory answer other than faith.
2 -- Free will. God lets us mess up, because otherwise it wouldn't have any value when we didn't mess up. He wants to woo us, not overwhelm us; when he does set the record straight, it'll be too late. Also, mere correct belief isn't enough -- the devil has a better grasp of theology than most of us, but that's not going to save him.
3 -- There's certainly evidence, as I've argued elsewhere in this forum. As far as why there's no proof, see point 2.
4 -- The Bible doesn't contradict evolution. And we haven't proven evolution the way we've proven, say, that 2 + 2 = 4. It's the best theory going, but could possibly be revised or supplanted in the future.

So when the cows come home, really the only way to answer the tough questions I have asked is because of "faith."

"Faith" is just that - faith. There's no evidence. Faith is really just intense hope.

So to sum up, you are worshiping a deity that kills those who worship him, lets other religions exist for the sole purpose of making us choose, sits back and watches natural disasters occur that wipe out entire regions, refuses to show tangible evidence of his own existence, has scientific evidence that conflicts with the word of his bible, only because of "faith?"

I'll pitch an idea: the reason evolution isn't mentioned in the Bible is because when the Bible was written, by humans, they didn't know at the time what evolution was, because they were primitive. Simple as that.

When people say "don't take it so literally!!!! everything in the Bible isn't meant to be a literal translation!!!!", that screams to me "oh shit, the stuff in the Bible can't fool or convince humans anymore because we have become too advanced to believe it, let's just say it was a "guideline" on how to live and worship"
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