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Originally Posted by willravel
You brought up " the definition of power, but the way in which power is used", to which I explained that all powerful speaks to ability, but not use. They are separate.
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I don't think I disagree with this at all. Epicurus fails because his concept of malevolence is overly broad and simplistic. It has nothing to do will omnipotence or all-powerfullness
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Which is why he never sinned! Wait...
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So? What does this have to do with anything?
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Most places where evil is mentioned in the Bible present an axiom regarding evil. It creates a construct in which evil is real and has definite meaning. 00
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So what you're saying is that you don't have anything specific in mind, but you're pretty sure they're in there somewhere. That seems to be a little lacking in the rigor one might expect from a fella pushing an argument based on the utility of rigor.
"If evil occurs, god is malevolent."
What do you mean by evil?
"Oh, I don't know, some shit in the bible somewhere."
Even if the "somewhere in the bible" definition of evil was to play, it still ignores that fact that religious folk often interpret the bible, so that what might appear to you (someone who thinks all denominations are the same) to be a definition of evil might be taken to mean something else entirely by folks who actually practice.
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I already explained this is moot. His "plan" is irrelevant.
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I missed that part. Please explain it to me again like I'm slow.
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Precisely. Belief in god is not rational nor logical. It is an act of indefensible and unreasonable faith...
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It is rational and logical, if you have any sort of rational or logical commitment to the actual definitions of the words "rational" and "logical". Faith can be rational and logical. I'm not sure how word got out that it couldn't.
Belief in god isn't a mathematical proof in the sense that it doesn't seem all that likely that mathematical proofs could be used to invalidate the logical implications of the existence of a god. I'm sure folks have tried. Unfortunately, as Epicurus' ditty shows, one is doomed to dealing with axiomatic definitions of god that don't necessarily apply.
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
You seem oddly resentful of my education. I can understand that being how you struggle with yours and I'm more than willing to give you some help in surviving and thriving in academia.
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For the love of god, please help me climb the ivory tower, ustwo. Really, I appreciate you and your education, you just bring out the douche in me.