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Thanks for that, _Jazz.... I always appreciate a good mocking....but why not save it until you're responding to someone who doesn't know WTF they are talking about.
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Who's to say that I didn't?
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could it possibly be that you don't have an accurate frame of reference to position your own political views?
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Nope. My political views are the product of years of study and consideration. Could it possibly be that you're so obsessed with the sins of the Bush administration and the vast right wing conspiracy that you can no longer read the data presented in this thread?
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You've been subjected to all of the government/media blather that I have, in our life experiences in the good ole USA. How do you think Obama got to be so far positioned to the right of Eisenhower.... Israel worship, commitment to use of force in the face of perceived imminent threat, and a pledge to increase US ground troop strenght by 92,000 ? Could the answer be that Obama is simply a mirror held up to reflect the increasingly rightist perspective of you and of many others who don't notice that they haven't questioned enough of the BS flung at them.... ala pentagon PSY-OPS 2008.... and "are we going to wait until there is a mushroom cloud on our horizon?"...circa 2002?
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Believe it or not, host, but policies change over time. That's why we're no longer at war with the British, despite fighting 2 declared wars with them and being desperately afraid they would intervene during the Civil War.
Other than that, the two quotes have nothing to do with one another. Obama repeated a doctrine present during at Reagan years that we would attack where our interests were threatened. The Foreign Affairs piece is not about Israel, despite the way that you edited it to appear that way. There is one paragraph about Israel. The next one concerns Iran and Syria. Then he discusses the AMERICAN military. He does not say that he will attack those who attack Israel, which is what your editing implies. And, in the subsequent paragraphs,
ISRAEL IS NOT MENTIONED!
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Is Obama, correct, _Jazz? Are ALL of Israel's perceived "enemies", out enemies? Would Wahington or Eisenhower have put this in writing:
...you think so???? Really ???
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Do you really want me to play cute editing games? If you do, I'd be happy to go find a random thread and edit a quote of yours to turn you into a Limbaugh Ditto-head. I won't because it would amount to a mildly interesting exercise in futility and something that's just mean-spirited, but I hope you see my point - you've tried to turn the statement into something it isn't.
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Is it wise foreign policy for Obama and other politicians to describe Israel as "the only democracy" in the ME, considering that the Iranians have attempted....they aren't they are'nt there yet, but they are miles ahead of any Arab country in that region, to hold democratic elections? What do you suppose the reaction "the average Iranian" is, to statements excluding their progress towards democracy?
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The average Iranian would probably agree that Council of Guardians and the Assembly of Experts, neither of which is democratically elected hold much more power than the president or legislature. Oh, and the Supreme Leader is the commander in chief and responsible for all the general policies of the country. And he appoints the CoG and the AoE. As well as the judiciary. And the heads of the radio and TV networks. And the heads of the military. And the CoG approves all presidential candidates. Question, host: who's more powerful, Khamenei or Ahmedinejad? Think carefully....
So, on one hand, we have the parlimentary democracy that is Israel and on the other we have a theocracy with a few democratic elements.