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Old 05-14-2008, 08:45 AM   #95 (permalink)
Willravel
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Originally Posted by filtherton
Why would they come up in your dad's sermons? Does he go around preaching vaguely nondenominational sermons? Do you go to your dad's church every Sunday? Were you there when he blamed the U.S. government for AIDS ?
He doesn't intend them to be interdenominational. That's the point. Actually, most of the Lutheran and Methodist sermons I've seen are unintentionally interdenominational (say that 6 times fast!). I don't go to church at all, but my dad's sermons are available online, and I usually read them.

Maybe we can perform an experiment. Attend different protestant and catholic churches over the next few weeks and write down everything that's not interdenominationally applicable in the sermons. I think you'll find, as I have, that most sermons take some text, from the Bible and then simply weave a broad moral tale about it.

If you really want to test it, attend a few temples and mosques. I've only been to a few of each myself, but even they are surprisingly consistent.
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It probably is. That doesn't mean that its significance to different sects of different faiths can be accurately determined from selective holy book quotation. We all know that theists generally presume god to be omnipotent. What that actually means probably depends on who you ask.
"All powerful". It means all powerful. It's a simple definition that's provided in Sunday School classrooms all around the world.
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Sure, if that works for you. Find me a bible verse where god claims that suffering isn't part of being human.
That's not relevant to Ep's logical symphony. He has the power and does nothing, or he doesn't have the power and isn't god.
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