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Old 05-12-2008, 07:23 PM   #157 (permalink)
FoolThemAll
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Originally Posted by filtherton
The part about defending obnoxious people? Are you serious?
Uh, no. The "need not ever affect them personally" part. Perhaps you're imagining 'them' to be a much more narrow group than I am.

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Sounds like a regulatory can of worms.
Like anti-smoking legislation?

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So the "gift" that private business give their customers is free?
The part where they come in and take up space? Yeah, that tends to be free.

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I never said it was.
Just commenting on another unmade argument, then?

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No, you just condemned the kind of authoritarianism that you happen to be a proponent of.
Incorrect.

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So you prefer limiting individual freedom over the freedoms of private business? That's where we differ.
Private business tends to be made up of individuals.

And I said nothing about the property rights of these secondhand-loving children anyway, so I'm not sure where you discovered my secret preference for freedom of business over freedom of kids. You're still relying on oversimplifications to discover these oh-so-numerous inconsistencies of mine.

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I'm just not sure why you brought up James Dobson.
I think you're both overly nosy in a way that violates rights rather than defending them. Something really insignificant like that.

Also, I hear he's on craigslist under the name 'topdob66'. Just passing that along.

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Why? She can leave at any time. It's not like the beating is exactly a secret at this point.
I'm tired of this tangent. Is it your position that employees/customers who suffer from (or enjoy) secondhand smoke are akin to battered wives in some significant way? Is there a point to this line of joke? Or did you just feel like missing the message of "not until you stop beating your wife"?

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Well, it's not very nice to expose your employees to carcinogens.
It's nicer than exposing your employer to your excessive sense of entitlement.
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