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Old 05-12-2008, 10:05 AM   #155 (permalink)
FoolThemAll
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Originally Posted by filtherton
Yep, the whole "people using government to enforce their personal preferences on privately-owned areas that need not ever effect them personally" thing. You know you have a certain similarity there, too.
Sure, as long as you keep ignoring that second part.

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Do you propose some sort of "callousness test" for parents before they are allowed to give their child permission to work?
Observations of working conditions should do it.

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Okay, how about this, private businesses take the "gift" of having their business subsidized through the various protections and infrastructure provided by the government.
Almost clever. But you're right to put 'gift' in quotes. It's not a gift. They pay for it. (And they aren't exactly given the option not to.)

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I'm just saying that "you're being unreasonable." is a poor argument.
Well, that's not the full extent of what I said, is it?

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So I am similar to James Dobson, in that we are both "people using government to enforce their personal preferences on privately-owned areas that need not ever effect them personally" which is just another way of saying that we share the same affinity for "nosy authoritarianism."
Sure, as long as you keep ignoring that second part.

At least you're now implicitly noting that I never condemned all authoritarianism. Baby steps, I guess.

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You know kids are allowed in smoke filled restaurants, right? And these kids might not have the power and/or authority to escape from such a situation, should it turn harmful?
Pass a law that bans those under 18 from entering smoke-allowed areas. I wouldn't oppose it.

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No, I know that the nuance exists, I just don't think your position is entirely consistent, and I know you disagree.
It still doesn't seem like you're talking about my argument. It seems like you're talking about a somewhat similar argument.

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She chose to marry me, live in my house and can leave at any time. Any attempts by her to stop me from beating her are unreasonable.
You should've been upfront about the beating aspect of the marriage before it happened. I could've sworn I said something about deceit before...

Also, it's just not very nice to beat your wife.
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