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Old 05-12-2008, 07:48 AM   #125 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Ok now that I have some time I need to expound on this.

DC, your statement is almost everything thats wrong with the 'environmental' movement right now.

Yes, ozone pollution is a problem, its a bad thing. Combustion engines create pollutants which are bad for the environment, such as SO2, NO2, CO, and particulate matter, ALL of which are bad and should be reduced.

But you state 'CO2 emissions' not 'pollution' or what REALLY creates ozone pollution, NO2, but CO2 emissions as if CO2 is the major problem. You are trying to work in that fear, that buggaboo of global warming into the equation to scare people into doing SOMETHING now. Its interfering with really dealing with the real pollution. The cleanest, pollution free internal combustion engine would produce CO2 and water. If there was a new engine which did just that, even if it was quite expensive, I'd be in full support of making such engines mandatory is they would be eliminating huge amounts of measurable and verifiable environmental damage and potential harmful effects to humans.

Instead, we have made CO2 the main enemy, and therefore internal combustion the enemy no matter how 'clean' the burning. This is of course what many of the radical environmentalists want, they see the good of removing the other pollutants worth perpetuating the fear of global warming, even if not true. They think people are too stupid to do whats right, so they can say things like 'CO2 emissions causing ozone pollution' even though CO2 has nothing to do with ozone pollution.

One of the major issues with O3 (thats ozone) is damage to crops/plants, and interestingly increased CO2 helps to negate the negative effects of O3. Basically we are releasing a poison, O3, and releasing the antidote CO2 at least as far as plants are concerned. Animals on the other hand, not so much.
Ustwo....I didnt say CO2 causes ozone pollution. I said it contributes to it. I agree it may have been poorly worded.

CO2 emitted from fossil fuels burned at power plants and in vehicles causes excess heat to be trapped thus contributing to conditions for ground level ozone pollution....or simply put, excessive CO2 emissions from these sources contribute to air pollution. As more and more CO2 is emitted from anthropogenic sources, the Earth's (forests/plants and oceans) ability to soak up or re-absorb these billions of tons of carbon each year are diminished.

Is that better?

Perhaps this is the solution.....horse power

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The horse walks on a fibreglass treadmill, generating enough power to move the 300kg Naturmobil along on six motorcycle wheels.

http://www.xpress4me.com/news/uae/dubai/20007183.html
Oh wait.....methane.
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