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The issue with soc.net. sites is that no matter how good the software, if your mates aren't on it, it's crap.
Think betamax...
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Overhead, the Albatross hangs motionless upon the air,
And deep beneath the rolling waves,
In labyrinths of Coral Caves,
The Echo of a distant time
Comes willowing across the sand;
And everthing is Green and Submarine
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