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Originally Posted by ottopilot
Specifically, which handful or two are you referring to, and which of these are not climate scientists, and which industry interests are funding them?
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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/08/po...gewanted=print
June 8, 2005
Bush Aide Softened Greenhouse Gas Links to Global Warming
By ANDREW C. REVKIN
A White House official who once led the oil industry's fight against limits on greenhouse gases has repeatedly edited government climate reports in ways that play down links between such emissions and global warming, according to internal documents.
In handwritten notes on drafts of several reports issued in 2002 and 2003, the official, Philip A. Cooney, removed or adjusted descriptions of climate research that government scientists and their supervisors, including some senior Bush administration officials, had already approved. In many cases, the changes appeared in the final reports.
The dozens of changes, while sometimes as subtle as the insertion of the phrase "significant and fundamental" before the word "uncertainties," tend to produce an air of doubt about findings that most climate experts say are robust.
Mr. Cooney is chief of staff for the White House Council on Environmental Quality, the office that helps devise and promote administration policies on environmental issues.
Before going to the White House in 2001, he was the "climate team leader"
<h3>and a lobbyist at the American Petroleum Institute, the largest trade group representing the interests of the oil industry. A lawyer with a bachelor's degree in economics, he has no scientific training....</h3>
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Marc Morano? Did someone mention <a href="http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2007/morano.html">Marc Morano?</a>
<h3>Marc Morano attempted this SMEAR:</h3>
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http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialRe...20060417a.html
Media Darling on 'Global Warming' Assailed by Colleagues
<h3>By Marc Morano</h3>
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
April 17, 2006
...George Deutsch, a former NASA public relations employee who resigned his job in February, told Cybercast News Service that he was warned about Hansen shortly after joining the space agency. "The only thing I was ever told -- more so from civil servants and non political people -- is, 'You gotta watch that guy. He is a loose cannon; he is kind of crazy. He is difficult to work with; he is an alarmist; he exaggerates,'" Deutsch said....
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<h3>...Two months after George Deutsch's credibility disappeared and the white house agenda was revealed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</h3> <h2>:</h2>
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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/08/politics/08nasa.html
February 8, 2006
A Young Bush Appointee Resigns His Post at NASA
By ANDREW C. REVKIN
George C. Deutsch, the young presidential appointee at NASA who told public affairs workers to limit reporters' access to a top climate scientist and told a Web designer to add the word "theory" at every mention of the Big Bang, resigned yesterday, agency officials said.
Mr. Deutsch's resignation came on the same day that officials at Texas A&M University confirmed that he did not graduate from there, as his résumé on file at the agency asserted.
Officials at NASA headquarters declined to discuss the reason for the resignation.
"Under NASA policy, it is inappropriate to discuss personnel matters," said Dean Acosta, the deputy assistant administrator for public affairs and Mr. Deutsch's boss.
The resignation came as the National Aeronautics and Space Administration was preparing to review its policies for communicating science to the public. The review was ordered Friday by Michael D. Griffin, the NASA administrator, after a week in which many agency scientists and midlevel public affairs officials described to The New York Times instances in which they said political pressure was applied to limit or flavor discussions of topics uncomfortable to the Bush administration, particularly global warming.
"As we have stated in the past, NASA is in the process of revising our public affairs policies across the agency to ensure our commitment to open and full communications," the statement from Mr. Acosta said.
The statement said the resignation of Mr. Deutsch was "a separate matter."
Mr. Deutsch, 24, was offered a job as a writer and editor in NASA's public affairs office in Washington last year <h3>after working on President Bush's re-election campaign and inaugural committee, according to his résumé. No one has disputed those parts of the document.</h3>
According to his résumé, Mr. Deutsch received a "Bachelor of Arts in journalism, Class of 2003."
Yesterday, officials at Texas A&M said that was not the case.
"George Carlton Deutsch III did attend Texas A&M University but has not completed the requirements for a degree," said an e-mail message from Rita Presley, assistant to the registrar at the university, responding to a query from The Times.
Repeated calls and e-mail messages to Mr. Deutsch on Tuesday were not answered.....
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dc_dux, it's all been laid out in front of them before, they don't "get it", because they don't want to get it. It's not about the legitimacy of sources, or anything that you and I can hope to ujnderstand....
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...8&postcount=39
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
You mean you don't know the history of John Edwards as a lawyer, where he made his millions and what it did to the medical profession, and the number of increased c-sections despite you voting for him for vp in the last election?
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http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...1&postcount=40
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Originally Posted by host
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
This wasn't covered in truthout.org?
Oh my. I covered this before.
Edwards is a disgusting human being of the worst kind, I'd vote for Kusinich before I'd vote for him, without regret. I'd rather a left wing loon than a stereotypical shyster.
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Have you considered that the only place where the partisan garbage you are spouting is coming from is from ridiculously prejudiced and compromised sites like cnsnews, authored by exposed, unethical partisan shills, like this guy?
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http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics....20040120a.html
Did 'Junk Science' Make John Edwards Rich?
<h2>By Marc Morano</h2>
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
January 20, 2004
(CNSNews.com) - The superstar trial lawyer accomplishments of John Edwards, which allowed this former millworker to amass a personal fortune, finance his successful U.S. Senate run in 1998 and catapult himself into the 2004 race for president, may have been partially built on "junk science," according to legal and medical experts who spoke with CNSNews.com .
Edwards, who with a late surge finished second in Monday's Iowa Caucuses, continues to cite one of his most lucrative legal victories as an example of how he would stand up for "the little guy" if elected president.
Edwards became one of America's wealthiest trial lawyers by winning record jury verdicts and settlements in cases alleging that the botched treatment of women in labor and their deliveries caused infants to develop cerebral palsy, a brain disorder that causes motor function impairment and lifelong disability.
Although he was involved in other types of personal injury litigation, Edwards specialized in infant cerebral palsy and brain damage cases during his early days as a trial lawyer and with the Raleigh, N.C., firm of Edwards & Kirby....
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If requested, we can discuss Marc Morano's reputation, and the reputation, origin, and funding of CNSnews....IMO, it is as pathetic a source as worldnetdaily is.
Here is a balanced decription of Edward's litigation from a findlaw contritbutor, published on a mainstream news network website:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/07/27/se...rds/index.html
The attack the trial lawyers strategy is part of along term, republican party Op intended to defund democratic party candidates, by eliminating the revenue that it's traditional contributors have access to. The other large prong of this attack is to eliminated dues from union workers and unions themselves.
This is a class war, also intended to remove the right to initiate lawsuits by most of us....people who cannot pay a lawyer in advance to conduct a lawsuit.
You are manipulated Ustwo, more and more of us recognize it....
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http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...3&postcount=41
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
host you don't have a fucking clue what my sources are, and quit worrying about it, really, is there nothing you won't try to blame the source to cover up?
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<h3>dc_dux, I couldn't even get an admission that Marc Morano was the soiurce of the vicious propaganda aimed at John Edwards, when Morano actually was the source...as the following post clearly shows:</h3>
10-26-2004, http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...2&postcount=15
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
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Originally Posted by Mr Mephisto
Can someone eduated me on the c-section thing?
Thanks,
Mr Mephisto
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<h3>Marc Morano</h3> of CNSNews.com had done an exposé last January of how Edwards used "junk science" in his cases. Stossel added to this, noting that "In a report released last year by the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists and the American Academy of Pediatrics, scientists now say the disease is seldom caused by anything a doctor does in the delivery room." But the result of Edwards-type lawsuits has been a radical increase in the number of caesarean deliveries, in order to avoid lawsuits. Since 1970 C-sections have gone from 6 percent of all births to 26 percent. Obstetrics professor Dr. Edgar Mandeville told Stossel, "And there has not been one small decrease in the cerebral palsy rate across the board."
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google edwards + c section
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09-26-2006 http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=108927
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Finaly ONE senator understands global warming (long, scroll button)
I have to put this full speech in as I didn't think any senator really had a clue about global warming beyond a few factoids. I don't know anything about this guy, but he even had stuff in there I didn't know and I was a kid in the early 80's and it came into vogue.
Being that you are mostly liberals and want 'all the facts' according the ratbastid I'm sure you will all read the whole thing. I've highlighted the important bits for conservatives. I will put it in italics and bold for neo-cons.
The speech
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Speeches & Statements
“Hot & Cold Media Spin: A Challenge To Journalists Who Cover Global Warming”
HOT & COLD MEDIA SPIN CYCLE: A CHALLENGE TO JOURNALISTS WHO COVER GLOBAL WARMING
SENATOR JAMES INHOFE CHAIRMAN, SENATE ENVIRONMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE
<h3>Contact: Marc Morano</h3> (marc_morano@epw.senate.gov) Matt Dempsey (matthew_dempsey@epw.senate.gov)
Click here for highlights of the speech and to watch
SENATE FLOOR SPEECH DELIVERED MONDAY SEPTEMBER 25, 2006....
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11-17-2006 http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...4&postcount=10
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Originally Posted by host
I won't be sorry to say goodbye to Joe Barton and James Inhofe, as committee chairmen of anything that has any impact on the environment or on anything that will affect my future or the future of my friends and family....IMO, they have contributed to further fouling of the environment and to setting back scientific research and the international reputation of the US as a leading edge nation, to an "on the fringe" country, in just a few years that seemed to last forever.....
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http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002010.php
Update: Inhofe Tipped to UN "Brainwashing" by Former Limbaugh Producer
By Justin Rood - November 17, 2006, 12:35 PM
The U.N. conference on global warming in Nairobi was nothing more than a "brainwashing session," Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) declared yesterday. As we noted then, Inhofe -- a man of science -- wasn't basing that on firsthand knowledge, but on the word of his staff who attended the event.
Who was this expert staffer? <h3>Press accounts identify him as Marc Morano</h3>, who isn't a scientist but is Inhofe's press flack. Morano is also a former reporter and producer for the Rush Limbaugh show, according to an online biography of the gentleman.
TPMmuckraker editorial guidelines strictly prohibit the writing of completely obvious punch lines. So I will only point out the building blocks -- Inhofe, "brainwashing," expert, Rush Limbaugh Show -- and let readers construct their own.
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<h2>ottopilot....</h2> can you understand how we cannot take Sen. Inhofe or anyone who quotes him or his "man", the former Limbaugh show producer and extreme partisan hack, Marc Morano, seriously when they are quoted to support an argument against a global warming crisis ? It isn't one post that creates an impression, it is a track record, compiled over time, here at this TFP forum that does it:
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http://www.boston.com/news/globe/edi..._warmer_world/
DANIEL P. SCHRAG
On a swift boat to a warmer world
By Daniel P. Schrag | December 17, 2006
I AM A climate scientist and an optimist. This may seem like a contradiction, with all the talk of scorching heat waves and bigger, deadlier hurricanes. But it's not.
...I later learned that Inhofe's communications director, Marc Morano, was a key figure in publicizing the swift boat veterans' attack on John Kerry in 2004. Morano, it seems, is still up to his old tricks, twisting the facts to support his boss's outrageous claims.....
Daniel P. Schrag is professor of earth and planetary sciences at Harvard and director of the Harvard University Center for the Environment.
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There are two side here, ottopilot, either you recognize Marc Morano for what he is, or you drink the following kool-ade:
(I never ever visit drudgereport.com and I know that cnsnews.com and newsbusters.org are creations of propagandist Brent Bozell III....)
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http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2...rds-story.html
.....For the last 15 years or so -- since the early years of the Clinton administration -- our public political discourse has been centrally driven by an ever-growing network of scandal-mongers and filth-peddling purveyors of baseless, petty innuendo churned out by the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Matt Drudge, various right-wing operatives and, more recently, the right-wing press led by Fox News. Every issue of significance is either shaped and wildly distorted by that process, or the public is distracted from important issues by contrived and unbelievably vapid, petty scandals. Our political discourse has long been infected by this potent toxin, one which has grown in strength and degraded most of our political and media institutions.
For anyone who thinks that that is overstated, the definitive refutation is provided by ABC News Political Director Mark Halperin and The Washington Post's former National Politics Editor John Harris, who provided this description in their recent book about how their national media world operates:
<a href="http://209.85.215.104/search?q=cache:hH7sI9sAo7oJ:transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/15/rs.01.html+Matt+Drudge+is+the+gatekeeper...+he+is+the+Walter+Cronkite+of+his+era.&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=us">Matt Drudge is the gatekeeper... he is the Walter Cronkite of his era.
In the fragmented, remote-control, click-on-this, did you hear? political media world in which we live, revered Uncle Walter has been replaced by odd nephew Matt. . . .
Matt Drudge rules our world . . . With the exception of the Associated Press, there is no outlet other than the Drudge Report whose dispatches instantly can command the attention and energies of the most established newspapers and television newscasts.
So many media elites check the Drudge Report consistently that a reporter is aware his bosses, his competitors, his sources, his friends on Wall Street, lobbyists, White House officials, congressional aides, cousins, and everyone who is anyone has seen it, too.</a>
This is why our political process has been so broken and corrupt. The worst elements of what has become the pro-Bush right wing have been shaping and driving how national journalists view events, the stories they cover, and the narratives they disseminate.
What kind of government and political system -- what kind of country -- is going to arise from a political landscape shaped by the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Matt Drudge, Sean Hannity, Fox News, Michelle Malkin, and their similar right-wing appendages in talk radio, print and the blogosphere? Allowing those elements to dominate our political debates and drive media coverage guarantees a decrepit, rotted, and deeply corrupt country. That is just a basic matter of cause and effect.....
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