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Old 05-09-2008, 11:40 AM   #82 (permalink)
Martian
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Originally Posted by JumpinJesus
I'm trying to understand where much of the defensiveness is coming from. I don't see anyone here bashing fat people. I see a lot of people saying that if you can't take responsibility for your own actions, then don't expect the rest of us to accommodate your inability to exhibit more self-control, and that means that if you became fat because you didn't stop yourself from eating to the point of gluttony, then it's not our job to treat you as if you have a disability.

I understand losing weight is difficult, but so is quitting smoking, facing alcoholism, or getting over any other addiction. They also all have in common the fact that while there may be a genetic predisposition for the condition, it is a personal choice to engage in the behavior that results in their condition.
Thank you!

Once more for clarity, I don't care if you're fat! Fat or thin or in between, what kind of shape you're in, I honestly couldn't care less. Go be a fucking rhombus if you want. I'll be over here doing my thing.

I'll even extend that to say that anybody who decides to spend their time mocking people based solely on their weight needs to find a hobby because it's apparent to me that person has way too much time on their hands.

If you are an overweight individual who wants to lose weight, you have my full support. Losing weight sucks, sure. It's hard. Quitting smoking had me twitching uncontrollably for a week straight, but I still did it.

If, on the other hand, you are like jennaboo4u and are unwilling to make the necessary lifestyle changes to lose weight and get in shape, I say good on ya! Enjoy that cake, watch those movies, do whatever you want to do.

The only thing I take issue with is a lack of personal responsibility. Blaming the food or the stores or (as fucked up as this is) other people for the way you are is blame dodging, and it's stupid. It tells me that you don't understand the correlation between personal freedom and personal responsibility, and that makes me seriously question if you're ready for either.

Okay, so when it comes to weight I lucked out genetically speaking. I am thin and while currently I wouldn't describe myself as fit exactly, I'm also doing battle with my particular little genetic flaw and if you want a real sob story ask me about that some time. What I don't understand is how my genetic disposition to stay thin makes it easier for me to go for a walk every day and exercise portion control.

In North America almost all of us have access to things like personal transportation and easy access entertainment and it's made us lazy. This was recently made abundantly clear to me when I made an off-hand comment to my mother (who at 50 is in better shape than most 25 year olds) about walking 5 kilometres. She seemed to think it was a long way to go, despite the fact that this is my minimum goal for every single day.

Personally, I'm still upset with it because I'm walking it and not running it and it's kilometres and not miles. Yeah, before my current tale of tragedy and woe I used to be that guy.

So here I am. Thin, yeah, cool. Horrendously out of shape and that sucks. It's hard. It was even harder back in October when I couldn't walk further than a block and a half without becoming completely exhausted. If I walked down to the end of my street I didn't know if I'd have the stamina to make it up the hill again. But christ, I went out and I did it twice a day anyway just to prove I could. And you're going to tell me losing weight is harder than that?

I've gotten on a bit of a tangent because I'm annoyed at the idea of fat people whining 'it's too haaaard!' as if anyone who weighs less than 250 lbs has never ever done anything difficult in their lives. I quit SMOKING! It's more addictive than HEROIN! And three months later I'm STILL FUCKING IRRITABLE! If you couldn't tell.

Honestly, I'm expecting my friends and family to start a petition soon requesting that I start again. I expect I'm much easier to deal with.

So, bottom line is that no, I don't care if you're fat. As this will be the fourth time I've said this, I expect it should be perfectly clear by now. If you're happy, I'm happy for you. What I do take issue with is these 'fat acceptance' and 'fat is beautiful' movements that tout being morbidly obese as a something normal and beautiful and healthy. Being fat is not healthy. In fact, it's the opposite of healthy and will probably kill you sooner than the thin smokers. If you're okay with that, then fine. But don't try to tell me that it's something positive, because it isn't.
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