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Lasereth · 05-09-2008, 05:07 AM

I suppose I should put in a few comments since I'm a prime suspect in the fat case:

I'll make some points that are basically rambling with no coherent structure because there is no overall structure to what I'm about to say, just some insights from me growing up.

My dad's side of the family (the males in particular) are all fat. When I was born, I was fat. Growing up, I was fat because my parents let me eat whatever I want, and I suppose my genetics from my dad allowed me to overeat without getting sick. Growing up as a kid I was active but I was still fat in the stomach region.

Now that I'm an adult, the real fun comes in. I was about 210 pounds at 5'10" when I went to college. I wasn't disgustingly fat but I wasn't skinny and muscular either. Throughout college I had a meal card. Whilst growing up I had no limiters on what I ate and my parents never told me it was a bad thing to eat until you're full. Back to my genetics telling me to eat until I was full: I ate and ate in college until I was full and ballooned up to 275 pounds. I ate myself into that position. Completely and totally my fault.

Now here's the part that no one likes to talk about: remember my dad's side of the family being fat? Genetics made me have a huge propensity to be fat <I>and</I> have an extremely hard time losing weight. I graduated college, hated being fat and decided to not live like my dad and my grandpa. I went from eating 5,000 calories per day (that's how much it took me to be full) to 800-1,500 calories per day which is absolute pure torture. I've tried losing weight in the past...going down to 2,500 per day from 5,000 has little effect. Extreme measures must be taken to lose weight with my body.

Now the part where this ties in with fat people in general: imagine you're fat. That's right skinny people, imagine that you're 275 pounds. Put yourself in a fat person's shoes. You've made bad decisions about food and now you're fat. You've decided to lose weight and today is the day to start.

You stop eating as much and start exercising every single day. Cardio, weight training, eating 1500 calories per day...except something is wrong. You're not losing weight. Nothing. You are going through maniacal pain in your stomach daily from craziness-inducing hunger and then following it up with an hour daily of excruciating, joint-busting, puke-inducing exercise in order to make your body healthy. Except nothing is happening. You are struggling to make a difference and it's not working. 1 month goes by. No weight loss. 2 months. 3 months. 4 months. Every day you are driven insane by hunger, driven insane by the pain of working out as a fat person and you are getting no result.

Most people don't have the willpower to continue. Have the skinny people bashing fat people who can't control themselves ever thought about the possibility that losing weight isn't as simple as eating less and exercising? Once you're fat it's not simple to lose weight. Eat less calories than your body needs and you lose weight. Physics, right? Pure logic, right? Wrong. Not every fat person's body reacts this way.

It took me 4 months before I lost a single pound. After 4 months my body was ready to give up its epic struggle with being fat. 8 months later I had lost 70 pounds.

Here's an even more entertaining addition: working out and exercising had no part of it. I lost the first 50 pounds without exercising because exercising had no effect on my body.

So before the skinny people who lose weight easily bash a fat person next time, think to yourself: what if they've tried losing weight for 3 months with no result? What if they must endure mental anguish (food becomes your savior when you're fat, your best friend, you're basically killing your stomach and your friend by losing weight) and physical torture for months on end with no result just to <B>begin</B> the weight loss process?

Those strong enough will endure and those with weaker minds will not.

I know every fat person is not like this. I realize that most people are very susceptible to exercise and eating better. But some are not, and I'm defending them right here.

I've lost 70 pounds and gained 10-15 pounds of muscle so far. I eat 1,000 calories per day. Sometimes 1,500 and occasionally 2,000 if I want to be a "fatass" that day. I eat vegetables, meat, fruit, you name it. I never eat sweets. NEVER. I eat a dessert maybe once every 3 months. I eat less and more healthy than most skinny fit people and guess what? I'm still fat.

That's right, I'm still fat and I eat better than you and go to the gym THIRTEEN times a week (twice at work daily, and 3 times a week after work). I live a healthier lifestyle than you, try harder to work out, and care about my health more than the skinny people that bash fat people and I'm STILL fat. I could lose another 50 pounds but it's just not happening.

Now that I've rambled, I suppose the point of this was to show that the fat-bashers don't know the whole story about many fat people. They may be healthier than you but their body is EXTREMELY resistant to change due to genetics and a lifelong detrimental effect caused by parents that let you overeat. Some fat people can't lose weight without an epic 4 month long struggle before a single pound is lost that makes you depressed because there is nothing to look forward to anymore (it used to be food!).

Now to all the people at work that bring in Bojangles biscuits every morning and go out to eat for every meal of every day and have to struggle to get up the stairs: I hate you. I hate you for mocking my efforts and leading everyone else to believe that I'm fat because I eat too much just like everyone in this thread believes.

05-09-2008, 05:07 AM	#65 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	I suppose I should put in a few comments since I'm a prime suspect in the fat case: I'll make some points that are basically rambling with no coherent structure because there is no overall structure to what I'm about to say, just some insights from me growing up. My dad's side of the family (the males in particular) are all fat. When I was born, I was fat. Growing up, I was fat because my parents let me eat whatever I want, and I suppose my genetics from my dad allowed me to overeat without getting sick. Growing up as a kid I was active but I was still fat in the stomach region. Now that I'm an adult, the real fun comes in. I was about 210 pounds at 5'10" when I went to college. I wasn't disgustingly fat but I wasn't skinny and muscular either. Throughout college I had a meal card. Whilst growing up I had no limiters on what I ate and my parents never told me it was a bad thing to eat until you're full. Back to my genetics telling me to eat until I was full: I ate and ate in college until I was full and ballooned up to 275 pounds. I ate myself into that position. Completely and totally my fault. Now here's the part that no one likes to talk about: remember my dad's side of the family being fat? Genetics made me have a huge propensity to be fat <I>and</I> have an extremely hard time losing weight. I graduated college, hated being fat and decided to not live like my dad and my grandpa. I went from eating 5,000 calories per day (that's how much it took me to be full) to 800-1,500 calories per day which is absolute pure torture. I've tried losing weight in the past...going down to 2,500 per day from 5,000 has little effect. Extreme measures must be taken to lose weight with my body. Now the part where this ties in with fat people in general: imagine you're fat. That's right skinny people, imagine that you're 275 pounds. Put yourself in a fat person's shoes. You've made bad decisions about food and now you're fat. You've decided to lose weight and today is the day to start. You stop eating as much and start exercising every single day. Cardio, weight training, eating 1500 calories per day...except something is wrong. You're not losing weight. Nothing. You are going through maniacal pain in your stomach daily from craziness-inducing hunger and then following it up with an hour daily of excruciating, joint-busting, puke-inducing exercise in order to make your body healthy. Except nothing is happening. You are struggling to make a difference and it's not working. 1 month goes by. No weight loss. 2 months. 3 months. 4 months. Every day you are driven insane by hunger, driven insane by the pain of working out as a fat person and you are getting no result. Most people don't have the willpower to continue. Have the skinny people bashing fat people who can't control themselves ever thought about the possibility that losing weight isn't as simple as eating less and exercising? Once you're fat it's not simple to lose weight. Eat less calories than your body needs and you lose weight. Physics, right? Pure logic, right? Wrong. Not every fat person's body reacts this way. It took me 4 months before I lost a single pound. After 4 months my body was ready to give up its epic struggle with being fat. 8 months later I had lost 70 pounds. Here's an even more entertaining addition: working out and exercising had no part of it. I lost the first 50 pounds without exercising because exercising had no effect on my body. So before the skinny people who lose weight easily bash a fat person next time, think to yourself: what if they've tried losing weight for 3 months with no result? What if they must endure mental anguish (food becomes your savior when you're fat, your best friend, you're basically killing your stomach and your friend by losing weight) and physical torture for months on end with no result just to <B>begin</B> the weight loss process? Those strong enough will endure and those with weaker minds will not. I know every fat person is not like this. I realize that most people are very susceptible to exercise and eating better. But some are not, and I'm defending them right here. I've lost 70 pounds and gained 10-15 pounds of muscle so far. I eat 1,000 calories per day. Sometimes 1,500 and occasionally 2,000 if I want to be a "fatass" that day. I eat vegetables, meat, fruit, you name it. I never eat sweets. NEVER. I eat a dessert maybe once every 3 months. I eat less and more healthy than most skinny fit people and guess what? I'm still fat. That's right, I'm still fat and I eat better than you and go to the gym THIRTEEN times a week (twice at work daily, and 3 times a week after work). I live a healthier lifestyle than you, try harder to work out, and care about my health more than the skinny people that bash fat people and I'm STILL fat. I could lose another 50 pounds but it's just not happening. Now that I've rambled, I suppose the point of this was to show that the fat-bashers don't know the whole story about many fat people. They may be healthier than you but their body is EXTREMELY resistant to change due to genetics and a lifelong detrimental effect caused by parents that let you overeat. Some fat people can't lose weight without an epic 4 month long struggle before a single pound is lost that makes you depressed because there is nothing to look forward to anymore (it used to be food!). Now to all the people at work that bring in Bojangles biscuits every morning and go out to eat for every meal of every day and have to struggle to get up the stairs: I hate you. I hate you for mocking my efforts and leading everyone else to believe that I'm fat because I eat too much just like everyone in this thread believes.