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I agree. This doesn't agree with your claim that atheism is a conclusion of logic. All atheism is is a rejection of belief in a deity. Logic need not have anything to do with it, and frequently it doesn't. It has nothing to do with atheism being a weak position; one would need to know more about the particular justifications one uses for being an atheist.
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Your statements here do not add anything to your original position, nor do they address the points I brought up about it. Furthermore, why would someone need to justify being an atheist?
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I didn't say the universe doesn't behave logically. I said that it is very difficult to make a sound logical argument that the universe is absolutely logical, especially in light of certain phenomena that seem to be completely random (assuming my understanding of them is correct). It has nothing to do with god. What it does speak to is the inherent flaw, from a scientific perspective, in assuming that the universe is governed completely by logic.
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Randomness is illogical? Therefore the Universe is flawed?
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You have to? Why? I mean, I understand the thirst for actual, verifiable scientific knowledge, but I also understand that most people don't care, because it doesn't really matter to them. Most people only care about science to the extent that they enjoy watching dumbed down bits of it on the discovery channel. I think that there are a great many atheist who have merely replaced god with anyone with a PhD or a lab coat. It isn't logical at all, just a substitution. You seem to make the same mistake that many religious folk do, which is that you presume to have the correct perspective, instead of just a perspective. There is more to the world than that which can be independently verified in peer reviewed academic journals.
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We can never know everything about the Universe, therefore... God might exist? Therefore one cannot really know anything? I don't think you're arguing very clearly here either. And I'm not going to bother defending the opinions of theoretical people. There are a "great many" of people who do all kinds of stupid shit.
And as for your talking about the differences between science and logic, I don't know where you're going with that either. Yes, they are distinct elements, like red and blue and up and down. You wanted to separate them, whatever. Does it matter? Not really.
But what I can tell you is that atheism is not a "perspective." It is a conclusion. There is no logical support for faith.
That's why it's called "faith," and not "reason."
For someone who claims to be agnostic, you sure do work up a sweat for the theists.