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Originally Posted by FoolThemAll
I hear sunlight verry verry slowly gives you cancer, too. Funny that people still walk outdoors, you'd think that would decline over decades.
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This is because you can't "stop" sunlight. It's out of people's control. But get rid of all the smokers? That's something "they" think they can do. And if not, we'll just make their lives unhappy.
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Originally Posted by filtherton
We weren't talking specifically about smoking, though. We were talking about people using government to enforce their personal preferences on privately-owned areas that need not ever effect them personally.
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I might be wrong, but isn't that what's been happening since the start of our government? I mean with "separate but equal," "over weightiness," and now with smoking. I'm sure there are other examples, but those were the first that came to mind.
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Originally Posted by FoolThemAll
Reasonable people would not go onto someone else's property and order them to stop smoking. That's not something that reasonable people would do.
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I have to agree with this. I didn't take the time to look up "reasonable" but I feel like it is a bit controlling and unneeded. Children may not be "smart" enough to make the "right" choices, but then again, neither are some adults. But being an adult means having the freedom to what you want (inside the laws of the land). But when laws are an interfere with people's everyday life, they get ignored, even if they are "reasonable." Laws that come to mind are jaywalking and talking on cell phones in cars. And while people are willing to put up with non-smoking laws indoors, I think any laws put on outside places are going to have a good number of people ignoring them.
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Originally Posted by Derwood
banning smoking in restaurants is as much about protecting the people working there as it is about protecting the patrons
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I think that is all well and fine. But because there are people who don't care about being "protected" - aka smokers - there should be room for places that allows smoking. And those who want to "protected" can have their dinner, drink, ice cream else where. The only problem I have is that the government is forcing everyone to "protect" the lungs of non-smokers.
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Originally Posted by filtherton
Notice how much is being accomplished.
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And while this may not have any effect (or is it affect?) on the conversation, I can't help but wonder how many people in the discussion are smokers, non-smokers, or ex-smokers. . . . Is it too late to add a poll to this?