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Old 05-06-2008, 10:42 AM   #135 (permalink)
filtherton
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Originally Posted by FoolThemAll
People should be forthright about offers they extend, lest they commit fraud by omission. Workers often won't have that inside information unless it is given to them. The very large difference here: restaurants advertising secondhand smoke aren't being deceitful. The information is already there for the taking.
We weren't talking specifically about smoking, though. We were talking about people using government to enforce their personal preferences on privately-owned areas that need not ever effect them personally.

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Yes, when I approve of the market directing voluntary choices, I was clearly referring also to choices not so voluntary. Consent to secondhand is rightnextto child slavery on the slippery slope.
You can't have it both ways. Either you support the free market or you are apparently a nosy authoritarian. Which are you?

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Children generally hold the weight of doing what adults tell them to do. It's not the same. It's not the voluntary situation that it would be if it involved consenting adults.

So much for those shades of gray of yours.
No, I still see the shades of gray. Apparently you do too. Unfortunately, the ability of children to effectively make decisions is completely irrelevant when it comes to people using government to enforce their personal preferences on privately-owned areas that need not ever effect them personally. So what if children can't make decisions? Why does that have anything to do with telling a private business person who they can and can't employ? Do you think we should limit advertising directed at children too? I thought you were against nosy authoritarianism.

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Reasonable people would not go onto someone else's property and order them to stop smoking. That's not something that reasonable people would do.
I'd link to the definition of the word "reason" but I'm pretty sure you know how to use google. Reason is not defined with respect to a certain ideological position, it is defined with respect to the structure of ideas. Just because you don't find something to be reasonable doesn't actually make it unreasonable. What if you're being unreasonable?

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I hear sunlight verry verry slowly gives you cancer, too. Funny that people still walk outdoors, you'd think that would decline over decades.
It is pretty funny.
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