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Originally Posted by filtherton
Okay, so I'm like James Dobson in some relatively insignificant way. That's fine.
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Pretty much the opposite of insignificant. Different issues, same nosy authoritarianism.
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I don't have a problem with worker safety regulations or child labor laws either, despite the fact that they are the result of people using government to enforce their personal preferences on privately-owned areas that need not ever effect them personally.
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With worker safety regulations... it really depends on which ones you mean. Some jobs are just more dangerous by nature. As long as dangers are made perfectly clear - now see, THAT'S where the government comes in - a lot of these regulations ARE overreaching.
Child labor laws kinda actually, y'know,
do affect people personally, people who don't necessarily have the power necessary for avoiding or escaping such a situation. Not a good comparison.
Secondhand smoke was avoidable before the bans by sticking to public property, your own property, and private property owned by like minds. That really, really, really sounds like a reasonable compromise to me. But people in favor of smoking bans - wait for this neat trick, wait for the channeling of Ann Coulter in a way that's actually 100% valid - demonstrate that they aren't reasonable people. At least when it comes to dining out.
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I guess I just don't care all that much about the rights of private business people.
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Yes, we've already established this.
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I'll agree with you that there are plenty of nonsmokers who are obnoxious, I appreciate the fact that they're obnoxious in a generally non-carcinogenic way.
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And I'll agree with you that there are plenty of obnoxious smokers, but I appreciate the fact that I'll never have to leave my own property to avoid them.
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As for tanking sales, that sucks-- though you'd think sales would suffer continuously, given that smoking kills people.
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It kills people verrry verrry slowly. If something else doesn't get them first. Like nonsmoker-induced aneurysms.