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Old 05-04-2008, 05:58 PM   #129 (permalink)
filtherton
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Originally Posted by FoolThemAll
That your distinction is immaterial. The government is the people.
This whole tangent is immaterial.


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Beliefs which don't require bad logic may be harder to change, but it's presumptive to rule out the possibility of change. You don't know me that well. Hell, I don't know me that well. And for all I know, you're just as dogmatic. Are you just arguing that arguing with me is pointless? Or is there something less ironic?
I'm not arguing with you. I'm just repeating what I said using different words. You're the one who seems intent on arguing.

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Noted. My standing point being that injustices don't have to be Darfur to be worthy of attention.
I never said they did. I just said that the antiban crowd tends to be a bit dramatic.

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Again, FUD? Spell out that acronym for me and why anti-ban types must rely on it. (Bonus points for how you avoid this terrible reliance.)
Fear. Uncertainty. Doubt. And I never said antiban types must use it, I said many of them do use it. You should reread the things I've said. I think you're arguing with what you think I'm saying, and not necessarily with what I'm saying.

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I'm doing no such thing.
If you think injustice is requiring private business owners to submit to the public health requirements of local governments, local governments who are acting on the behalf of the majority of their citizens to limit the use of carcinogens indoors, then you are completely diluting the word justice.

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Sure, I'll cop to that. I wonder if you'd cop to being in the same position. And with the added benefit of being the liberal counterpart to let's-regulate-the-bedroom busybodies like Dr. James Dobson.
I won't cop to the same position, though I see how you would think that our positions were the same. James Dobson wants to regulate healthy expressions of sexuality. I am indifferent to the complaints of people concerning the possibly overreaching regulation of known carcinogens. If you don't see a difference, then I won't press the matter.

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I haven't found it tough yet. I sleep very well.
I'm sure you do sleep very well. Have you overturned any bans yet?

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I'll butcher Clerks: Humanity would be great if it weren't for the fucking humanity.
We're our own biggest problem.
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