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Originally Posted by filtherton
What's your point?
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That your distinction is immaterial. The government is the people.
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I never said you shouldn't. All I said was that any attempts to convince you otherwise would be as effective as trying to convince Mike Huckabee that god isn't real and so it is a useless thing to argue about.
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Beliefs which don't require bad logic may be harder to change, but it's presumptive to rule out the possibility of change. You don't know me that well. Hell,
I don't know me that well. And for all I know, you're just as dogmatic. Are you just arguing that arguing with me is pointless? Or is there something less ironic?
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In this instance, I happen to think that "mediocre" is just fine.
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Noted. My standing point being that injustices don't have to be Darfur to be worthy of attention.
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Yes, they use reason, but they rely on FUD.
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Again, FUD? Spell out that acronym for me and why anti-ban types must rely on it. (Bonus points for how you avoid this terrible reliance.)
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If you want to dilute the word "justice" then by all means.
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I'm doing no such thing.
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I'm not saying that you're defending smoking, or that the ACLU is defending racism. What I said was that you are essentially taking a de facto pro-smoking position on a matter of principle. Your personal opinion of smoking is irrelevant-- any success you have will mean success for smokers.
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Huckabee forbid.
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You and the ACLU happen to be in the position of defending the right of people to be obnoxious and destructive.
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Sure, I'll cop to that. I wonder if you'd cop to being in the same position. And with the added benefit of being the liberal counterpart to let's-regulate-the-bedroom busybodies like Dr. James Dobson.
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I'm not hating, I'm not saying it isn't noble, or net admirable to a limited extent, it's just a tough position to be in.
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I haven't found it tough yet. I sleep very well.
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Nothing is ever simple when people are involved.
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I'll butcher Clerks: Humanity would be great if it weren't for the fucking humanity.
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Originally Posted by Derwood
Smokers need to realize that there are no laws on the books protecting their right to smoke.
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Yes, the Constitution enumerates every single specific right we have, one by one. Anything left out must not be a right.
Goodbye Titty Board.
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So, with that said, they have absolutely NO leg to stand on as far as demanding a dry, safe, warm place to smoke.
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Unless that dry, safe, warm place is owned by them or someone friendly to their desires. Then you're the one with the peg leg.
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Additionally, there are a lot of things that are legal but regulated in this country. It's legal for me to own and fire a hand gun, but I can't walk down the street to do it. I have to go to an authorized firing range.
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That's a good analogy. Do you know why?
(Hint: what do a restaurant and a firing range have in common?)