Sometimes its good to look at a body of work...
http://www.ontheissues.org/Joseph_Lieberman.htm
Thats about Joseph Lieberman, seems pretty damn moderate to me there, and unlike a Salon hit piece, is his voting record and quotes. Things like repealing the ban on military base abortions and the ban on stem cell research, while also supporting the death penalty. Being a moderate politically means you can't be easily put into one camp or another.
I am also honest in my own assessment of who I am politically.
I am not moderate, I am right wing. Do I fit the 'typical' conservative as envisioned by the left? No, but I'm not ashamed or delusional enough to say I'm not on the right. I also know I am not slightly right, but either middle or far right on anything that doesn't involve religion or drugs/sex (where I'd be thought of as left/centrist).
If I didn't know this I could not have a conversation with people on these subjects. I would make assumptions in everything I read and other peoples view which were not correct. If I viewed myself as moderate, middle of the road, I'd see true moderates as leftists and anyone left as on the insane fringe left. My guess is people really on the insane fringe left would be so far off in my mind I'd assume they needed therapy.
So host, I leave you with this, γνῶθι σεαυτόν, know yourself.
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Originally Posted by dc_dux
Seaver, Otto and Loquitor:
Which of the examples below would you consider “extreme” and which are “moderate”:
A) it is ok to spy on citizens without a warrant if its for “national security” purposes
B) spying on citizens without a warrant is unconstitutional
A) it is ok to torture prisoners and foreign nationals in US custody in the very small chance that it may protect us from another 9/11
B) torture is against the law and US international treaty obligations under any circumstances
A)a president can act unilaterally to overturn laws enacted by Congress or decisions by the federal judiciary
B) the Constitutional system of checks and balances and separation of powers should protect the public from a president acting unilaterally.
A) it is ok for the government to act in secret whenever it chooses
B) the government should be as open and transparent as possible except when it may harm national security
a) the Dept of Justice should represent the political interests and agenda of a president
b) the Dept of Justice should ensure fair and impartial administration of justice for all Americans.
IMO, the As are extreme, the Bs are moderate.
The As are supported by an increasingly small percentage of the electorate....almost entirely on the right. The Bs are supported by the middle and the left. |
Can I pick C?
You are setting up lots of straw men and then declaring it 'moderate'.