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Originally Posted by host
loquitur, you've influenced me to think that you see yourself as a "moderate", so I think your answer to the "what does an extreme left political view consist of in the US, these days?" would be of interest to me and some others here.... My "point" is that there is no "left" in the US today, not in the corporate media, or in the House or the Senate, nor in the democratic party...no "left", and certainly no "extreme" left. In your opinion, are either Obama or Hillary "left", with or without the "extreme" prefix? Is Lieberman or McCain a "moderate", is NBC anchor Brian Williams better described as a "left leaning" Tom Brokawb successor in the job, or a manipulated incompetent, or a partisan "hack"? Do the two retired generals he so lavishly praised, seem more forthright expert military "consultants", or more like committed neocons and duplicitous war profiteers, or do the answers I'm seeking from you, not matter much, in your opinion? HD has a new ad campaign titled "Screw it...let's ride!" www.harley-davidson.com/screwit ....I don't see how to participate here anymore because what is considered centrist here and in 3-D seems too "McCain/Lieberman", and what is considered "conservative republican" seems positioned so far to the opposite of my perception of a "centrist type"....in the 90's it would be Bill Clinton as a fair representation... polls in 1999 reinforce it... that it is plain that there is no democratic party mirror opposite to "conservative republican" now or in all of the post Carter presidency years....more than 27 and counting.... so how, given my examples in the OP, can a serious discussion of opposing views take place here?...... Can any example in the OP be settled, at least between you and I?
Is it "left thinking" to view the OP examples the way I view them or do "the facts" serve to make my opinion of them "reasonable" to the degree that the "leftness" is obscured by the absurdity, of the OP examples, GIVEN THE FACTS.... |
It sounds like you're feeling a little misunderstood. To better understand your perspective, perhaps try saying exactly what it is that you want. After reading many of your posts, solutions to problems don't seem as important as the need to just rail against "the man". That's cool, we all need outlets. This is the internet.
I see the term 3D mentioned at times along with many examples to illustrate all the 3d"ness", but your summaries (in particular) usually result in a highly predictable 1D or 2D extreme bias with little room for discussion. Your presentation is thorough, but the "extreme" you question is in your super-biased conclusions. There is complexity and chaos in a 3D world, but there is also balance, harmony and simplicity, always holding it together, a bond. Bias is normal ... extreme bias is fueled by something else. Try looking at other elements in your 3D world, it may make more sense.
Yelling because "you're mad as hell" is all about getting attention. OK, you've kicked, screamed, held your breath, lectured, lamented, rolled on the floor, killed off the cyber-forests, spit, condescended, scolded, preached, whacked us with baseball bats, and no minds have been changed to your satisfaction? I wonder why?
So let's pretend that you've got everyone's undivided attention ... now what? In your perfect world ... with all the evil neo-cons and boogie men eliminated ... then what? What's life like in host's perfect world? What are the details to your solution? Tell us all about hostopia. Do we all get a fair shake in hostopia?