loquitur, you've influenced me to think that you see yourself as a "moderate", so I think your answer to the "what does an extreme left political view consist of in the US, these days?" would be of interest to me and some others here.... My "point" is that there is no "left" in the US today, not in the corporate media, or in the House or the Senate, nor in the democratic party...no "left", and certainly no "extreme" left. In your opinion, are either Obama or Hillary "left", with or without the "extreme" prefix? Is Lieberman or McCain a "moderate", is NBC anchor Brian Williams better described as a "left leaning" Tom Brokawb successor in the job, or a manipulated incompetent, or a partisan "hack"? Do the two retired generals he so lavishly praised, seem more forthright expert military "consultants", or more like committed neocons and duplicitous war profiteers, or do the answers I'm seeking from you, not matter much, in your opinion? HD has a new ad campaign titled "Screw it...let's ride!"
www.harley-davidson.com/screwit ....I don't see how to participate here anymore because what is considered centrist here and in 3-D seems too "McCain/Lieberman", and what is considered "conservative republican" seems positioned so far to the opposite of my perception of a "centrist type"....in the 90's it would be Bill Clinton as a fair representation... polls in 1999 reinforce it... that it is plain that there is no democratic party mirror opposite to "conservative republican" now or in all of the post Carter presidency years....more than 27 and counting.... so how, given my examples in the OP, can a serious discussion of opposing views take place here?...... Can any example in the OP be settled, at least between you and I?
Is it "left thinking" to view the OP examples the way I view them or do "the facts" serve to make my opinion of them "reasonable" to the degree that the "leftness" is obscured by the absurdity, of the OP examples, GIVEN THE FACTS....