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Old 06-05-2003, 08:34 AM   #74 (permalink)
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Originally posted by seretogis
If you want to assume that Lebell is afraid of functioning without a gun, I am sure you won't mind the assumption that you are terrified of guns.
Hey, I've got an idea. Why don't you let Lebell speak for himself? He's clearly more than capable.

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Originally posted by seretogis

Maybe you will think differently when/if something horrible happens to you or a loved one. Perhaps then you will have some sort of perspective into the difference between a victim and a criminal, and exactly who is at fault. The "it doesn't affect me" mentality is one that is bringing the country down.
Your assumption that I hold this opinion because nothing horrible has never happened to me or a loved one is decidedly poor. Sure, no one I know was ever raped, killed, robbed, or otherwise made the victim of crime. If you want tawdry stories about the people I love, just ask, you heartless bastard.

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Originally posted by seretogis

You have no right to determine how someone keeps themselves safe unless it has a direct impact on you and your safety. Firearms do not, unless you are a criminal.
So I shouldn't care about things until they affect me directly? I'm not allowed to care about the good of my nation and its citizens? Good plan.

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Originally posted by seretogis

You don't really answer his question, though, by pointing at a completely different country with a very different situation than us (smaller landmass, less people, different government, etc) and claiming that "it works." Take a look at the reductions in violent crimes of every state that has conceal / carry laws. Guns are very much a deterrant, and conceal / carry laws save more lives than they endanger. I have yet to see any US-based anti-gun statistics that hold water. Have any handy?
I'm not going to go into how statistics aren't relevent, because, thanks to your getting involved in the fourth quarter, I have several other posts to answer.
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