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Originally Posted by m0rpheus
Damn our crazy socialist ideas that want to keep things that are designed to kill other people out of the hands of the public.
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since socialism is in direct conflict with the ideas of american freedom and liberty, yes, they are considered crazy.
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Originally Posted by m0rpheus
It's like the old argument that if you make owning a gun a crime then only criminals will have the guns... umm well yeah and I'm okay with that. It just means one more crime to charge them with.
To me there should only be three groups of people that have guns. 1) Criminals, 2) the Police, 3) the Military. The second two being necessary evils at best and hopefully last resorts.
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so your idea of socialism is defined as 'the people are, at best, subjects to be ordered about to produce products for the benefit of society as a whole, neither free to preserve their life or of their families, and that they should believe they are strictly a commodity to be protected at the whim of their government while victimized by an elite group of criminals who can kill as many people as desired since they will eventually be caught. only then can we have utopia.
do I have that right?