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Lebell · 04-19-2008, 10:23 PM

*nod to Ustwo*

Gentlemen, I can say this w/o rancor or w/o personally attacking anyone here, but say it I will, bullshit.

I have engaged host numerous times, I have even taken the horrendous amount of time to track down all the posts in one of his missives and derailed most of them as "he said" "she said".

Baraka, you said it yourself:

"Personally, I haven't yet engaged in any of host's recent threads about this because few are responding in a way that would draw me in. I'm only coming in now because this response of yours is a good example of what derails my interest."

Indeed, who would be drawn into these threads? Who has the time to try and run down all of Host's stories, read the background and therefore understand the bias of the authors, etc etc?

I did it three or four times and frankly, I found that it wasn't worth it. Engage? I would love to engage, but Host is only interested in bashing you over the head with shear volume (quality questionable), and that my friend, isn't engagement. So isn't it ironic that what you don't appear to like (i.e. my post) has been the only thing that has made you respond?

Now to Roachboy: Lazy? I wasted how many years trying to moderate him, be fair, and respond, and I am guessing that you are grouping me with LAZY? You know what? If caring more for real people than chasing down every bit of floatsum that drifts into Host's transom on a website is lazy to you, I wear the title proudly.

Now to the final note, The Jazz: Dude, I truly feel for you. No doubt to the left on the board this is surely a personal attack, but I remember very well being in your shoes and hearing how people avoided this board specifically because of posts like this. To me, these posts aren't engaging. These don't help solve problems. If Host thinks that telling his grandchildren that what he did against the injustices of the world was to post ad naseum for YEARS on a web-site was "fighting the good fight", then he is a sadder person than I already think.

Personal attack? Look again. I'm trying to shake him one last time to ACTUALLY post in ways that make people of opposite opinions WANT to respond with other than vitriol. He isn't part of the solution, he is part of the problem.

So there you have it.

04-19-2008, 10:23 PM	#29 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	nod to Ustwo Gentlemen, I can say this w/o rancor or w/o personally attacking anyone here, but say it I will, bullshit. I have engaged host numerous times, I have even taken the horrendous amount of time to track down all the posts in one of his missives and derailed most of them as "he said" "she said". Baraka, you said it yourself: "Personally, I haven't yet engaged in any of host's recent threads about this because few are responding in a way that would draw me in. I'm only coming in now because this response of yours is a good example of what derails my interest." Indeed, who would be drawn into these threads? Who has the time to try and run down all of Host's stories, read the background and therefore understand the bias of the authors, etc etc? I did it three or four times and frankly, I found that it wasn't worth it. Engage? I would love to engage, but Host is only interested in bashing you over the head with shear volume (quality questionable), and that my friend, isn't engagement. So isn't it ironic that what you don't appear to like (i.e. my post) has been the only thing that has made you respond? Now to Roachboy: Lazy? I wasted how many years trying to moderate him, be fair, and respond, and I am guessing that you are grouping me with LAZY? You know what? If caring more for real people than chasing down every bit of floatsum that drifts into Host's transom on a website is lazy to you, I wear the title proudly. Now to the final note, The Jazz: Dude, I truly feel for you. No doubt to the left on the board this is surely a personal attack, but I remember very well being in your shoes and hearing how people avoided this board specifically because of posts like this. To me, these posts aren't engaging. These don't help solve problems. If Host thinks that telling his grandchildren that what he did against the injustices of the world was to post ad naseum for YEARS on a web-site was "fighting the good fight", then he is a sadder person than I already think. Personal attack? Look again. I'm trying to shake him one last time to ACTUALLY post in ways that make people of opposite opinions WANT to respond with other than vitriol. He isn't part of the solution, he is part of the problem. So there you have it. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!