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Old 04-18-2008, 04:44 PM   #459 (permalink)
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I do find the logical hoops the Obama supporters go through to justify it amusing to say the least.
No logical hoops: besides the AIDS thing, I pretty much agree with the things he's said. Of course, as I've alluded to before, I'm no stranger to liberation theology and, in many ways, I prefer it over other theologies, whether it is focusing on blacks, latinos, or poor whites. There can be (and is) a liberation theology for each. One of the core points of liberation theology in general is that Jesus is not black, white, hispanic, middle eastern, jewish, or anything else in particular. Jesus is whatever he needs to be to make him resonate with you as a symbol and champion of the oppressed. Hence why Fr. Pflager has a very large black Jesus in St. Sabina. Not because Jesus was physically black - that doesn't matter - but because a black Jesus helps the message resonate best with the black Catholic community Fr. Pflager preaches to.

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Obama used the guy to be 'more black' and it backfired a bit. If people would just wake up to Obama being what is so obviously is, a politician, then they wouldn't feel the need to make convoluted justifications for his association with someone like Rev. Wright.
There's really no evidence that Obama used Rev. Wright and Trinity to be more black. If you take some time to learn about him and his life, it's pretty clear that he has struggled with his identity all his life, trying to figure out where he stands in terms of race as well as in terms of family, having grown up in a single parent household. It's no mistake that his first book focused almost entirely on his search to connect with the heritage he lost when his father left. Aside for being pretty ridiculous to think that Obama was trying to be "more black" 20 years ago when, there's no evidence of that whatsoever.

The fact he's a politician is a totally separate issue, and for the 1000th time I haven't seen anyone here claim he isn't. There were very clearly other presidential candidates who were less of politicians than Obama is, and they're no longer in the race in no small part because of it. You have to be a politician to make it this far.
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