Originally Posted by roachboy

well, personally, i am more of the school that desicrating the koran is just an ugly, stupid, barbaric thing to do in itself, and that the breaking down of someone's personality in order to extract information is a dubious undertaking. i think that the line it treads is problematic, veering necessarily close to psychological torture--and i'm glad that i am not in a position of trying to figure out what would be ok to do and what would not---but not as glad as i am that ustwo is not in a position to make that determination.

i don't think that treating an "enemy" as a human being is a big stretch.
i just don't.

waterboarding is not in any such grey area.
waterboarding is torture--look at silent jay's post above, and remember what it used to be called--even the terminology "waterboarding" suggests something more benign than what it really is.