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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
You bring up some good points, but this is an overstatement. You haven't convinced me to give up on what is an emerging technology.
You leave out some important details. Switchgrass has low fertilization and herbicide requirements, for starters, and it's a hardy perennial with a complex and well-established root system, to boot. Also, some have found ways of getting 4 units of energy output for every 1 unit of input.
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The link you put up there is just a chap saying that ethanol can be produced from switchgrass on a +ve return, high yield basis, the Cornell and Berkeley study I linked to via PhysOrg reports:
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switch grass requires 45 percent more fossil energy than the fuel produced
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If you've got some more info on switch grass that puts some flesh on the bones of the statement through npr, then I'll be out setting up switch grass cooperatives immediately.
Ahh: I went and nosed around for some
more info... it seems switchgrass has the potential in some people's eyes, but is a red herring in others'...
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
For years, it was ridiculously expensive to extract oil from the tar sands in Alberta. Almost not worth it. But they've developed the technology to make it more viable and rewarding (though the environmental factors are questionable). Canada is now poised to be the next Saudi Arabia. Hoser Canadia?
I believe the same could be done with biofuels. I wouldn't give up so easily.
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The thing that has changed is the oil price, not the cost of the technology.
Above $35 dollars per barrel shale and sand oils start to become economical to extract, above $50 per barrel and they become commercially attractive to extract. The only problem is oil > $50 per barrel. I think, from memory, that economists reckon that world growth will slow by 1% for every $25 in the oil price over $20? something like that.
One good thing for Canada though, it becomes the nation with the second largest oil reserves while oil is over $50 per barrel (tar sands and oil shales are counted towards viable reserves then) - Venezuela is number 1.
Gracias Gringos! Viva Chavez!