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Originally Posted by abaya
No, because nothing reinforces that statement. An entire country cannot be held accountable for one of its random denizens murdering someone else who is taking a hike in a bridal gown. Now, if Turkey started murdering every peace-walker who wandered through their country, then yes, we could start to make a case for that position... but until that happens, no.
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I've already explained this.
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Originally Posted by Willravel, the merciful
Because they need to take responsibility for the behavior of their citizens not by responding after they commit crimes but by working to prevent crimes. It's not catching a criminal that creates a low crime rate, it's preventing people from becoming criminals.
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It's a "thing are so bad there, someone couldn't even walk across your country without being murdered" thing.
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Originally Posted by abaya
The power of such figures, at least for me, does not source from their deaths. It comes from what they were able to accomplish while they were ALIVE. Anyone can die, especially for a good cause. The death act in itself does not confer an apotheosis.
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I never said that was where their power came from. No one
starts out a martyr. It's what they do before their death that's galvanized by their death. I never would have heard about the wonderful thing this young woman was trying to attempt had she not been killed.