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Originally Posted by willravel
Her death was not guaranteed, but if it was then wouldn't that just reinforce my statement that Turkey should be ashamed?
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No, because nothing reinforces that statement. An entire country cannot be held accountable for one of its random denizens murdering someone else who is taking a hike in a bridal gown. Now, if Turkey started murdering every peace-walker who wandered through their country, then yes, we could start to make a case for that position... but until that happens, no.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Do I have to bring up MLK, Gandhi, and such again?
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The power of such figures, at least for me, does not source from their deaths. It comes from what they were able to accomplish while they were ALIVE. Anyone can die, especially for a good cause. The death act in itself does not confer an apotheosis.
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Originally Posted by roachboy
have to say, the piece works doesn't it?
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To me, it only works if she had a death wish going into the project. This would require cynicism, not naivete--which is what I believe was the real case (from the bits I've read--perhaps I've missed something).
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Originally Posted by roachboy
so it's kinda funny: some of you comrades who argue that pippa branca was stupid as an individual to put herself at this kind of risk are doing *exactly* what her project was designed to engender when you say it.
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RB, again maybe I missed this somewhere, but where is the statement that says what her project was designed to engender? I agree with you, if she indeed intended for her "art" to take place upon her death, but I haven't seen proof of that yet.