For the first part of your post, its an interesting take. Its possible, maybe even plausible, but without proof its a good 'what if'. Sometimes things do work out for your benefit without being planned by you. Its part of how we think to always look for a cause and effect. If you are walking down a trail and a large rock falls from above, narrowly missing you, you always first look to see if it was pushed before thinking it was just coincidence. If you saw a man up there, you would initially assume he had something to do with it. Its a safer way to think, but it can lead to wrong conclusions. I think this had a lot to do with the 9/11 conspiracies. Since it 'helped' out Bush's agenda, it MUST have been planed by him, that sort of thing.
So while its possible they are bankrolling the environmental movement at some level, I wouldn't be horribly shocked, I think its more a convenient coincidence for them. Having done my time with environmentalists and seeing whos on what side, it would be incredibly Machiavellian if it turned out the movement was funded by the oil industry. Would make a good book though.
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Originally Posted by pan6467
Before you start, yes, I do believe climates are changing and that there maybe some form of global warming, but... is it us or is it just a natural progression, we can't change or a combination?
It may not have anything to do with "pollution" caused by fossil fuel exhaust and so on but because we have destroyed too much of the rainforest and watersheds due to population needs.
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I've made my position clear that I don't think our CO2 contribution is enough to matter in other posts, but I think this too is a searching for a directed cause problem of the human brain. Yes we have destroyed some rainforest's, yes we have changed watersheds, but its impossible to say if there is a true global climate effect or not. Even if it changed some rainfall patterns or the like, is that enough to cause a rise in global temperatures? I don't think so personally. We have been in a VERY stable climate period for the last 8000 years or so, some credit it for allowing us to finally form civilizations, but that in itself has been unusual. It WILL change, things will get more chaotic again, we will have another ice age eventually, and all that would happen even if we all volunteered to take cyanide tomorrow.