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Old 04-12-2008, 03:14 PM   #44 (permalink)
Ustwo
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Originally Posted by roachboy

who wouldn't be ashamed?
i expect that had the same thing happened in, say, ustwo's community, he'd be all sackcloth and ashes for the way in which it embarrassed the community as a whole, even as he might also be running his "people are assholes because they're genetic programmed to be assholes" line.
I'd want those responsible punished and I'd still think she was a dumbass. I don't feel responsible for everyones behavior in my community.

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but i don't buy any of the genetics arguments.
I'm shocked.

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these effectively justify the murder of this person by arguing that it is simply the performance of some in-built characteristic--and this by extension to exculpate everyone involved not only in this but in almost any action anywhere by any one ("whaddya mean? it's in my nature"...this is that odd little story about the scorpion)
Nope. Murder is in our genetics, as is being social and protection of that community from murder. Those who can not control their traits get removed from being able to harm others. Its still all quite nicely "natural".

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which seems a genetics-based argument against civilization when you think about it.
Civilization is but the ultimate end of our social nature + intelligence, war is our desire to solve problems violently + intelligence. Both have served our species well over the years.

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but in this particular case, it's implication is that the "proper" attitude to have to this story is
"o well, shit happens. people are fucked up. next."

which i think is a kind of crass little response. little in every sense.
Shit does happen and I'm not going to shed extra tears over a self proclaimed artist who did a very silly thing which turned out to be fatal over anyone else who was murdered. She put herself in harms way to prove a point, and instead showed just the opposite, ironic indeed. The murder of an innocent is always tragic, this one more no more tragic than the next.
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