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Old 04-12-2008, 11:40 AM   #84 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Tully Mars
I honestly don't know what to believe anymore. One thing I do believe is even they don't believe what they're saying anymore. Then that happened I haven't a clue. Did they know the intel on the WMD's was BS? Did they know the insurgency was going to be a huge problem? Did they know this was going to cost 100's of billions? Did they know the surge wasn't sustainable? I don't know but I'm sure at some point they knew "we've turned or are turning a corner" was and is a BS statement.
I think that for what you said in your previous post to be true, it would follow that they at least knew before 9/11 that an attack was coming and decided to let it play out and then "follow on", and that they deliberately handled the Katrina disaster in a way that would maximize profits for crony contractors, even it is minimized support and aid for the disaster victims. Every where you look.... fired Arabian horse judge appointed to head FEMA, after equally unqualified former Bush campaign manager resigns as FEMA head, to John Bolton, on record, AFTER 9/11....saying it would improve UN if top ten stories of it's HQ buikding were removed.....is appointed by BUSH to head US mission to UN....counter to senate approval, Hans von Spakovsky, accused , at DOJ, of interfering with the minority right to vote, appointed by BUSH to FEC, counter to senate approval,

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It's not just the military, Tully...they are trying to advance Grover Norquist's quest to "drown government". like a baby in a bathtub, by first, fucking it up intentionally, soooo badly that they can "prove" it doesn't work. Then, what is left of it can be privatized, but mostly eliminated.

Junior, just 4 or 5 months from now, will have succeeded in piling $4 trillion in new debt on top of the existing, on January 20, 2001, $5.7 trillion debt that took 200 years to rack up. Even Junior's dad and king Reagan needed 12 years to turn a $995 billion debt into a $4.2 trillion debt!

There is no large protest of all of this, from the American people, so the willful official sabotage and massive destruction it results in, will continue until the results are so terrible that the bulk of people wake up. If it was all stopped today, it would take 15 or 20 years of competent government to even return things to conditions existing on Jan. 20, 2001....maybe.

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