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Old 04-09-2008, 04:34 PM   #250 (permalink)
Ustwo
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Originally Posted by ratbastid
I think I'd know equal educational opportunity when I see it. And I think you're trying like crazy not to deal with the meat of the question.

Poor black people don't deserve your help, right? It wasn't your ancestors who made them that way. You happen to be a benefiting from a centuries-old culture of institutional racism, but that's pure coincidence. Nothing needs to change.

Is that REALLY what you're saying? I'm putting it like that because I don't actually think you're that heartless and selfish, and I want you to have the opportunity to see what it is you've said here, and comment on if that's really what you mean to say.
You can't even answer what equal opportunity is and you ignore that and basically attack me for not dealing with the meat of the question?

I fail to see how I am befitting from past racism in the least. I'm white, how did it help me? Was I better off than if I were born into a poor black family? Hell ya, I'm also better off than if I were born into a poor white family. My family has worked hard and stayed out of trouble for several generations, how they managed to benifit from racism is beyond me at this point. Did it help them somehow make it through the great depression? Did it help my grandfather on Iwo Jima? Did it help me get into schools where I needed higher grades than a minority to attend?

And further, despite your tone what you have basically said is the age old joke 'Did you stop beating your wife?' If I disagree with you, I must be a racist. Sorry but thats bullcrap.

The good intentions of the great society have led to greater poverty and failure than the racist policies that came before it. How much more good money do you think needs to be thrown after bad before you are willing to admit 'Ok money isn't helping'. Do you really think more black fathers will stay with their families if you increase funding to social programs and schools? That crime will go down if you give more 'help'? This has gotten worse and worse despite ever increasing spending, and I think that spending is to blame for much of it. I'm all for adequately funding schools, seeing that people get a chance, but where do you draw the line, how much will you let your guilt over the sins of long dead white men to haunt you enough to continue to destroy the black family to assuage your conscience? I'm putting it like that because I don't actually think you're that heartless and selfish, and I want you to have the opportunity to see what it is you've said here, and comment on if that's really what you mean to say.
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