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Old 04-06-2008, 11:46 AM   #161 (permalink)
filtherton
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Originally Posted by pan6467
I am not and I have never said IGNORE.... I said learn from the past and stop making the same mistakes, going to extremes and promoting hatred in ANYWAY.
From what I gather, your solutions to racial problems can be summed up by saying that you think that no one ever anywhere should ever acknowledge any difference between races with respect to anything. How is this different than ignoring the problem?

I can imagine your diatribes about King opting to work on behalf of an all black sanitation worker's union. "What about all the blue collar white workers getting screwed? Why is he ignoring them? Because they're white? Why, that Martin Luther King is nothing but a hatred spewing racist."

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Giving a black judge a pass and then stating you would condemn a white judge is just as racist and wrong as as allowing a white judge to do it and not the black judge.
No, it's not. Racial equality doesn't just refer to equal treatment, it also refers to equality with respect to other measures as well. The fact that young black males are more likely to be criminals, regardless of their treatment by the justice system, is a sign that inequality still exists, regardless of who is to blame for it. The fact that you can't seem to fathom the role a successful black man might have in convincing a group of young black males who've already started on the wrong path to turn change their lives around is immaterial. Could the judge have spoken to these young men in front of everyone else? Yes. Would his lecture have necessarily had the same effect if it was in front of the general public? Maybe, maybe not. None of us were there, we don't know.

You can sit back an call it racist, but that doesn't matter, you're opinion is irrelevant to any of the folks actually involved. I don't think your definition of racism is useful in any sense, because apparently anyone who does anything proactive concerning racial inequality is racist.

How about this: You, Pan, are a racist, hate filled bigot for even acknowledging that the judge was black. Clearly, in the world that is MLK's dream we don't even have words for race, because it doesn't exist in any relevant way-- color of skin << content of character, all that. Since you claim to be an adherent to the goals of MLK, the fact that you even recognize that other people are black makes to a racist, hate spewing bigot.

Does that last paragraph seem reasonable? Not to me. Maybe it does to you.
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