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Old 04-06-2008, 10:40 AM   #155 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Willravel
You clearly aren't familiar with Malcolm X. His life was struggle, and he knew it, but he had that hope, even at the end.
Yes, he did in both cases. At the end though he saw ALL HUMANS as equal.


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Originally Posted by willravel
I'm using love, convergence, understanding, and peace. You're hating the judge because he was trying to act as a responsible community leader.
Just as this judge has the hope.

PAN!! LOOK HERE!!! READ THIS!!! LQQK!!!
If the judge were white and he was responding to a high crime rate among a white population, I'd be applauding him for his efforts to help. If the judge were a woman and she was responding to a high crime rate among the female population, I'd be applauding her for her efforts to help. Is that clear enough? Or should I write it again, and again and again? Because it's not the first time I've wrote it.

So to clarify, if the roles were reverse and the judge white I'd be supporting him, too.
But you are the minority in this aspect Will.

Look how many made excuses saying that a white judge shouldn't e allowed or couldn't but for the black judge it was ok.

I can truly respect your position in that you would applaud ANY judge in similar circumstances at doing this. You aren't showing any prejudiced. You are ok with the action from anyone not just a black judge and make excuses why others can't.

My problem is that in court and a judge whether in session or not should not show this type of behavior. I'm against ANY judge doing it. I feel if it was a god message ALL there may have benefited not just a select group picked out by the judge.

It becomes prejudicial and shows bias.

So we disagree there. But that is just part of it.

But the other side, the side you aren't involved in because you say all would be applauded, is where a group starts saying it is ok for this judge to do this.... but not a white judge, a male judge, a female judge, etc.

When that happens it becomes hypocritical and even more divisive.

It is time we stop being fucking divisive at all and realize that WE ARE ALL ONE RACE.... THE HUMAN RACE.

Malcolm even saw it. MLK saw it. John Lennon saw it.

If you separate this judge by his race and allow him to do this but would not allow a white judge to.... then is that not just as wrong as letting the white judge do it and not the black judge???????

YES, BECAUSE EITHER WAY IT PROMOTES RACIST, PREJUDICIAL BEHAVIORS.

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Originally Posted by filtherton
I have the feeling that if MLK or Malcolm X were alive today, Pan, you'd be calling them racist hate mongers because 1) they both recognized differences between the black community and the white community and 2) that neither believed that the problem could be effectively dealt with by ignoring it.

As it stands, it isn't that difficult to make it seem like dead people agree with you by selectively quoting them.
I am not and I have never said IGNORE.... I said learn from the past and stop making the same mistakes, going to extremes and promoting hatred in ANYWAY.

Giving a black judge a pass and then stating you would condemn a white judge is just as racist and wrong as as allowing a white judge to do it and not the black judge.
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