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Old 04-06-2008, 09:23 AM   #148 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by willravel
Pan: RACISM, HYPOCRISY, WHITE PEOPLE AND BLACK PEOPLE!
Everyone else: it's more complicated than that. Here's why...
Pan: RACISM, HYPOCRISY, WHITE PEOPLE AND BLACK PEOPLE!
Everyone else: No, seriously pan, it really isn't that simple. Again, here's why...
Pan: RACISM, HYPOCRISY, WHITE PEOPLE AND BLACK PEOPLE! I'M NOT RACIST!
Everyone else: Okay, Pan. Whatever.

So you truly believe you can excuse fighting racism and hate by using racism and hate?

Even Malcolm X saw that wasn't possible and it cost him his life, his own people killed him because he realized that won't work. All you will ever accomplish by doing that is to keep exploitation, racism and hate alive and flourishing.

If I give one group special treatment, it's prejudicial by definition and it will create resentments and feed hate from those groups that don't get that treatment. That is human nature.

If you take the past mistakes, learn from them and work to create a better future by understanding all sides, then hate cannot grow and true equality can become a reality.

That is my belief and that is all I am trying to communicate.

If you would say that a white judge doing this was racist, or a male judge dong this would be sexist, or whatever..... then you have to say the same in ALL situations like this. Otherwise, you are showing prejudice and supposedly that is what you are fighting..... that makes no sense, is illogical and will NO NOT NEVER solve anything. To make excuses to somehow allow this to happen, only allows prejudice, resentments, hate and anger against each other to grow because you keep feeding the monster.

If you say what he did was wrong/right and any other judge doing the same action was wrong/right and you show consistency.... there is no longer any prejudice there. There is equality there. Negativity can not grow, prejudice, resentments, anger, hatred can not grow and begin to wither and die.

We should not be defined by our color, religion, sex, sex orientation, ethnicity, we should be looked at as brothers and sisters of the same race.... THE HUMAN RACE. We can take pride and recognize our cultures, but we must respect ALL cultures equally if we are to truly understand and live peacefully with each other.

Malcolm X even said:

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Originally Posted by Malcolm X
I've had enough of someone else's propaganda. I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it's for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.
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Originally Posted by MalcolmX
I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language.
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Originally Posted by MalcolmX
You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it.
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Originally Posted by MalcolmX
I believe in human beings, and that all human beings should be respected as such, regardless of their color.
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Originally Posted by MalcolmX
I believe in the brotherhood of man, all men, but I don't believe in brotherhood with anybody who doesn't want brotherhood with me. I believe in treating people right, but I'm not going to waste my time trying to treat somebody right who doesn't know how to return the treatment. — NYC, December 12, 1964
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Originally Posted by MalcolmX
This religion recognizes all men as brothers. It accepts all human beings as equals before God, and as equal members in the Human Family of Mankind. I totally reject Elijah Muhammad's racist philosophy, which he has labeled 'Islam' only to fool and misuse gullible people as he fooled and misused me. But I blame only myself, and no one else for the fool that I was, and the harm that my evangelical foolishness on his behalf has done to others.
Link: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Malcolm_X

How far to the other extreme do we go until we realize it is hatred/prejudice and exploitation and all things we hated and preached against..... but we sugar coated it, excused it and sold it as the solution?????

How far the other way do we have to go to realize in the end, we didn't need to give anyone special treatment to make up for the past, because now we have just as much hatred, prejudice, anger, resentment, exploitation as we did when we began?

As the world gets smaller we best learn to forgive, make the future better for all and recognize that we are ALL in this together and hate, prejudice and resentments get us nowhere.
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