Originally Posted by Ustwo

Not sure what a multifarious mission statement is but I'd be happy to answer any unanswered questions. I did take one word out of a 1000 but I can clearly see where say 'the' would work in this debate but not where 'exploitive' would. Its a strong word, it deserved an explanation.



Sex is a basic physical act. We can add all the emotional layers we want, but for men a least the physical nature is what matters in the moment. If this wasn't true then we wouldn't have otherwise happily married men going to brothels. An interesting question in prostitution is WHO is being exploited, the women for sex or the men who are driven enough to spend cash for sex. I do not find 'that' to be very significant. Would it be better if it was 'I would do her'? That was the 'hit it' of my generation.



I can't say I know the origin of the word, nor does it matter, it matters in context of how its used. A nerd on the internet saying 'I'd hit that' has absolutely no connection to hip-hop culture any more than eating cracklins (pork rinds) would connect him to slavery. I have no idea if the phrase IS from hip-hop, I first saw it on fark.



Yep.



Just a few years ago? Lets see from my youth, which would be 20 years ago. 'I'd fuck her brains out', 'I'd do her', 'I want some of THAT' (yes that). I'm not sure when this innocent time was, but you might have to go back to the Victorian, where talking about sex, at least on paper, became taboo, though I'm sure they had a very nondescript euphemism or two for it, they were human after all.



Your choice of language makes me wonder what your real issue is here. Guys talking among themselves, about you, can be violative? I've caught people saying things behind my back which really pissed me off, but violate is an aggressive term, an assault on you directly, something far stronger than saying things which are crude or rude.



Yes but your time frame is too short. With the information age its more available but we are looking at closer to the last 40-50 years which if you think about it coincides with the women's lib movement. This is a far deeper issue than just media or what phrase kids are using. Women wanted to be accepted as sexual beings, not just baby factories, and fighting for the right to birth control etc leads to making women sexually available. Its a side effect womans liberation.



Well I can guess we can drop the old 'hit a nerve' concept from earlier eh? Your argument isn't being minimized and dismissed, I think its not graspable by many of us in this thread. To me it seems your real argument is about victimization of women, and that I just don't see here. It to me is regressive, back to a time where women were considered unable to defend themselves from the whiles of men, and were not suppose to like sex for sex itself. I happen to like that amazon has 24,000+ sex toys on line, that birth control is readily available, that porn is greatly destigmatized, that arguments are over if women should be allowed to be topless in public rather than how long their sleeves must be on their bathing suites.

If you want to discuss how women are viewed in hip-hop culture, be my guest, thats not my culture, and I'd have nothing to add there. I can only speak of my culture, middle class white, and in mine saying 'I'd hit it' is completely innocuous.