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Old 04-04-2008, 11:38 AM   #257 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
I don't understand your reaction tothis seems awful personal to you when it seems pretty general to me.


It is accepted in society, the fact that about 5 people who type fast can make 6 pages on it in a day or so doesn't mean its a major controversy. I'm not sure what the implications of this is in your mind, but to me its a face value thing. People like to have sex with people and those people are willing to expess this desire using a catch phrase. Thats about it.



Thats a matter of opinion, I'm not complaining that society is wrong, you have the beef, I'm just baffled with your reaction to it.



TFP exhibition has had a good number of such pictures, its not far fetched to bring them up as an example. In all fairness the women who HAVE done some risque pictures don't seem to have a problem with anything here either. If they did then my statement would apply. I'm not even sure who you are defending and you have yet to say what this 'explotation' is, so I'll assume it was just the wrong choise of words when you were being a tad melodramatic.



You can maintain this opinion, I have another. My inital reaction was to Jins rant about sexism in society etc which just seemed a bit off the hook. On the other hand I'm not even sure what you are arguing anymore. Is is that 'I'd hit it' is somehow a metaphor for voilence against women? Is it an assault against human nature in turning women into sex objects in the eyes of men? That women should be free from sexual judgement? Just what is the core of your argument? I have lost it somewhere.
No. Pretty much the jist of my argument at this point is that some people take even the suggestion that they might reflect on the implications of cultural jargon that they are so sure is harmless and meaningless as a very, very personal affront. I am not the one turning this into a 'major controversy.' We could have had a civil conversation about whether the use of a couple of phrases that essentially mean 'i'd fuck that' (which is a definitive example of the sexual objectification of a human being) is in anyway correlative to the mass sexual objectification of female bodies in our media and it's increasing acceptance. But instead it turned into a group exercise in pointing just how 'wrong' I am for even questioning these things in the first place. I haven't even been able to really consider possible answers to my own questions because I have been so thoroughly lambasted for even asking them. The reaction has me quite baffled, to tell you the truth. If it's not that big of a deal to you guys, you would have just read what I had to say on the first page and moved onto another thread.

So I've got an idea. You think this is a waste of time and not important enough to discuss? Then stop responding.
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