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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
I'm not talking about women who are posting spread eagle pictures of their vaginas. I guess I interpreted ng's comment that way because I am the one making comments here not some fictional woman posting naked pictures of herself or wearing hot pants to the grocery store and then whining when some guy says she looks sexy. Who has said anything about that?
The real women being addressed in this thread and by the OP are women on the street.
The implication is that if you have ever presented yourself in a way that could be seen as desirable by men, then you forfeit the right to make this argument. Bullshit.
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I don't understand your reaction tothis seems awful personal to you when it seems pretty general to me.
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What has made me, not upset, but adamant in my convictions and I've said it again and again is that it is not simply the phrase, but the implications of its widespread acceptance in our society. And let me tell you, it takes more than one viewpoint to create six pages of dialogue.
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It is accepted in society, the fact that about 5 people who type fast can make 6 pages on it in a day or so doesn't mean its a major controversy. I'm not sure what the implications of this is in your mind, but to me its a face value thing. People like to have sex with people and those people are willing to expess this desire using a catch phrase. Thats about it.
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I've found that the reaction to my viewpoint is far more emotional and over the top than I am being.
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Thats a matter of opinion, I'm not complaining that society is wrong, you have the beef, I'm just baffled with your reaction to it.
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You yourself have resorted to all sorts far-fetched statements and examples to make your case. The spread-eagle picture reference above being a perfect example of this.
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TFP exhibition has had a good number of such pictures, its not far fetched to bring them up as an example. In all fairness the women who HAVE done some risque pictures don't seem to have a problem with anything here either. If they did then my statement would apply. I'm not even sure who you are defending and you have yet to say what this 'explotation' is, so I'll assume it was just the wrong choise of words when you were being a tad melodramatic.
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Rather, I maintain that it is I who have hit a nerve here, not vice versa and that hotspot has yet to be explained to me.
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You can maintain this opinion, I have another. My inital reaction was to Jins rant about sexism in society etc which just seemed a bit off the hook. On the other hand I'm not even sure what you are arguing anymore. Is is that 'I'd hit it' is somehow a metaphor for voilence against women? Is it an assault against human nature in turning women into sex objects in the eyes of men? That women should be free from sexual judgement? Just what is the core of your argument? I have lost it somewhere.