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Old 04-04-2008, 08:12 AM   #240 (permalink)
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to back what mm said:

just read through the responses to this thread from the shocked and outraged gentlemen who cannot imagine why this particular phrase or phrases like them could possibly be at the least strange and at most problematic--how these responses are constructed such that ANY question about either the existence and actions of some inward fuckwit fratboy persona that enables/justifies/directs sexual desire is a threat to ALL forms of personae and ALL forms of male sexuality---how questions about the "right to be immature and stupid" gets asserted as an enormous non-sequitor than then nags about over and over in the bizarre little tunnel that is this thread----it is among the most proactively defensive threads i remember having seen on tfp.

and it's done without the SLIGHTEST trace of self-consciousness.
in fact, much of this seems to be a long series of arguments AGAINST self-consciousness.
as if sexuality is a space of immediacy and introducing self-consciousness into it fucks everything up.
where does this come from?


anyway defensiveness on this scale is a pretty clear indication that some nerve has been struck, and it seems to have to do with some commonalities in this community over the construction of masculinity and sexuality that is inhabited/invested in/lived through.

but it's not obvious *what exactly* has tripped all this...but it is obvious that something strange is going on here.

read the thread--take a break from busily defending your inner frat boy or from collapsing the particular into the universal or whatever other logical mistake you find yourself indulging in order to swat away whatever it is about this that has your panties in a twist---and read the thread.

it is a peculiar collective psychological document.
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