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Originally Posted by JinnKai
I don't actually believe this about you, but your post read like a rant rather than an educated response. If you don't believe what you initially posted (perhaps it was hyperbole), perhaps you could clarify:
Why do you believe that asking if there is a "better way" to express your sexual desire "insults" you? The way it is written seems to imply that you believe you are entitled to "express yourself sexually" no matter what. My "poor little baby" was a bit inflammatory, and I apologize. It just reads like a person who feels entitled to do something regardless of how it might make other people feel.
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It doesn't insult ME, i'm not that sexually expressive, sure, i like talking about it, participating in it, but it doesn't motivate me to do anything, I don't aspire to "get laid", I don't live for it, i've never been to a strip club. I think girls are entitled to participate in being sexual objects if they want, if they want to have sex on film, or wear skimpy clothes on music videos, good for them, thats what they choose to do. If this was a discussion on slavery, it'd be different, but this is a product of a team of individuals exercising their freedoms to CHOOSE, There are some beautiful women in the world and I APPRECIATE that they share that with the world, and yeah my base reaction to my exposure to some of these is admittedly "i'd hit it" and yeah I might even say it outloud to a guy friend or 2, but now we're supposed to read this thread and shuffle our feet and feel guilty for an admission of how we feel? Isn't that repression? We're supposed to be ashamed of this and keep it to ourselves? This is what we need to adopt as a social grace? so not only is the GBLT scene repressed we want to throw ourselves into that category with them? What next? white guilt?
Those people have to grow up having feelings for people that society tells them is wrong to do so and get all mentally damaged over it, because people keep putting rules and rules and rules in place when they really aren't even in a position to be making said rules. They don't speak for everyone.
if anything I just think we're supposed to be cool with going the other direction and being able to say "hey, this is where I stand sexually on this particular person" to a friend be it eloquent or crude, just at least be expressive and communicate.
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Originally Posted by JinnKai
I still maintain that this is an ignorant position. Not that you in particular are ignorant, but holding a position like this reveals an ignorance to the fact that women are subjected to unwanted sexual desire without themselves inviting it by their clothing or profession. There are plenty of women wearing business suits who still receive unwanted jeers or advances. To believe that they deserved it, therefore, would be a position ignorant of what really happens.
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I never once stated it was "deserved" and I, am trying to stick with the "i'd hit it" topic as an idea of "expression" instead of "harrassment" Some people are attractive to me, i'm not going to worry about the potential that this girl has me in her "unwanted advances" category because society will grind to a halt the minute people adopt that line of thinking, we're already dealing with that crap in the workplace that so much as asking for a date is grounds for harassment when it shouldn't be. A simple question with a simple answer and leave it at that, if she says no, then great, leave it at that. If it continues, then yeah it's harassment. What she deserves is really up to the person who's in a position to offer her anything, a deserving person cannot receive anything without someone to give her that thing she deserves, be it attention, a compliment, or if I may say so at the risk of being labeled "crude" good ol sex.
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Originally Posted by JinnKai
Follows the same reasoning. It doesn't appear that you've been conventionally educated on what the "pursuit of equality" is, or you wouldn't present a straw man such as this. Perhaps you could clarify what you think the "goal" of the fight for equality is?
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I'm as equally able to be sexually objectified as any woman is, and if you think johnny depp isn't fantasized about by some woman, or brad pitt, or.. so on and so on, you've got to be joking.
I call that pretty equal. They "choose" to have pictures of themselves taken in the near nude, shirtless and watered down, touched up in photoshop, whatever, the same process a female model would go through.
I don't understand your dilemma
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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
Uhhhh, let me get this straight. You are offended, personally, by the discussion of behavior that some of us here feel offended by? Ow, my head.
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yeah, I didn't express myself very clearly, hopefully my last post clears things up a little.